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#2316865 02/02/10 04:03 PM
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Okay, so I'm in Plan A for about a month now. Being cheerful and working on myself and following the 180 guide. It seems to be working. Supposedly the affair is over, but...

I have been avoiding all talk of the affair and our futures, as 180 suggests.

So when do we talk about NC? When do we start talking about what we're going to do? When do we discuss the affair? When do we go from Plan A to recovery?

Do I wait just wait it out and continue Plan A until the fog lifts even more before discussing anything?


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Trying, Plan A is very different from the 180. The Harleys DON'T recommend the 180 at all. Do you have the book Surviving an Affair?

Has the affair ended? Has it been exposed?

I would try plan A, which means to do everything in your power to bust up the affair. Once the affair is ended, then you would start on a program of recovery. In order to recover, he would have to start by telling you everything you want to know about the affir.


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Also, Plan A is only supposed to last 3 to 4 weeks. Where are you now?


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Oh, I see you are a guy. And that this affair has been going on for a long time. Have you exposed the affair? If you have done everything in your power to disrupt this affair, then I would look into getting a legal separation and going into Plan B. I see you have 2 little kids. How sad for them. frown


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Trying

Need to step back - do some research on this site...pulled this up earlier today....

Start with this link and understand Plan A and B and how the combination is supposed to work. BTW - PLan A is not Plan Doormat - Expose the affair to anyone that has influence.

180 is good if you are preparing for divorce and you need to get mentally divorced and on with your life. There are opposing points with 180 and Plan A. Doing both is Plan Confusion

Plan A/B below

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html


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But plan A, an effort to end the affair with thoughtfulness and care, doesn't always work. In many cases a wayward spouse is so trapped by the addiction that he or she does not have the will-power to do the right thing. Once in a while the fog lifts and the cruelty and tragedy of the affair hits the wayward spouse right between the eyes. In a moment of grief and guilt, he or she promises to end it. But then the pain of withdrawal symptoms often brings back the fog with all its excuses and rationalization, and the affair is on again.
Sometimes a wayward spouse settles into a routine of having his or her cake and eating it too. In an effort to win the wayward spouse back, the betrayed spouse meets emotional needs that the lover cannot meet, while the lover meets emotional needs that the betrayed spouse has not learned to meet. While this competition is excruciatingly painful to the betrayed spouse, and the lover as well, the wayward spouse basks in the warmth of being loved and cared for by two people, with no real motivation to choose one over the other.
So, to avoid an indefinite period of suffering while a wayward spouse vacillates between spouse and lover, and to avoid rewarding the selfish behavior of having needs met by both spouse and lover, if plan A does not work within a reasonable period of time, I recommend plan B.
While I have seen remarkable success by people using plan A and plan B, success is by no means guaranteed. The problem with Plan B is that the unfaithful spouse may not return, nor agree to the plan for recovery, even after the affair has ended. Separation in marriage is always risky because, "out of sight, out of mind." Unless plan A leaves the wayward spouse with the impression that returning home is an attractive choice, separation can become permanent. So before implementing plan B, you want to be sure that the last thing your spouse remembers about you is the care and thoughtfulness you offered in plan A. That way, the separation can help create, "absence makes the heart grow fonder."

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Yes. 4 weeks ago I exposed. My WW now says she is in no contact and has been for two weeks. She has not openly recommitted to the marriage yet though.

We are getting along and I am working on myself and trying to be as likable and attractive as possible. But for the most part I am avoiding all talk of the affair and where we go from here.


BH(Me)=40
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ILYBNILWY: 8/09
DDAY: 8/31/09
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TE, what is her plan to recover the marriage?


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MelodyLane,

I don't know what she wants yet. I don't think she does. We seem to be making progress though as we are now sleeping in the same bed, and hugging and kissing at times. We have not had sex yet, but we have given each other massages. And she sometimes talks about "if we stay in the house" and stuff like that.

I just want to take it slow and not put too much pressure on her right now. She said she is no longer in email/text contact with OM, and she has not had physical contact with him in over 6 months as he lives in another country.

The NC (email) only came about a few weeks ago after exposure. I don't know if she's sticking to it, but I am hopeful.

One of the real problems is her cousin/best friend. My WW and her cousin wrote a screenplay and filmed it over the summer. It stars the OM and is about his band.

I don't want her to continue with the editing of the film. But her cousin calls her everyday insisting they complete the project. It's proving to be a huge obstacle to my wife recommitting to our M.



BH(Me)=40
WXW=38
ILYBNILWY: 8/09
DDAY: 8/31/09
Two boys: 8,7
Divorced 3/23/2011

Don't let your eyes refuse to see. Don't let your ears refuse to hear. Or you ain't never gonna shake this sense of sadness. --Ray Lamontagne

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