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Originally Posted by gnirlos
I know that my letter was wordy...and that was the edited version. I just poured everything out that I was thinking and feeling.

I do know that she read the entire letter. At least once.

Can you tell me what the letter said? Was it a Plan B letter? What are the conditions for return? Did you tell her she cannot contact you? Did you specify an intermediary?

Good job on your exposure!!

I would strongly recommend you go ahead and expose to the karate parents.


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Mel, the letter WW has is the Plan B letter for the aborted Plan B on pg 4. That was not a draft.


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Good job on the exposure. hurray

If some family members or friends question the exposure, don't argue with them over it. Stay calm, polite and firm. You don't have to explain yourself...saving your marriage is the focus and they do not understand. And do not tell them about MB. You do not want WW finding out about MB because they tell her...that will be shooting yourself in the foot.


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Originally Posted by black_raven
Mel, the letter WW has is the Plan B letter for the aborted Plan B on pg 4. That was not a draft.

Do you know what it said?


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It's on page 4 girl. The letter that you said was too long and too much marketing...THAT IS THE LETTER.

ETA: It may have gotten lost in the first long post but this was written: "I run back to my car, spend the next hour re-drafting my Plan B letter, then go down and leave it in her driver's seat, head back to the car and start the drive home. When I got back to cell phone range, I call the ranch phone and leave a message on the answering machine (which is next to their head), "WW, there is a letter for you in your truck. Good night."



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If the letter is in WW's purse you should try to retrieve it at some point. I understand you were pouring your heart out to her but it is ammo against you in her hot WW hands.


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I ain't reading that letter.


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rotflmao



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sigh


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What are you sighing for?


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The letter. cry


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
The letter. cry

Never thought I would hear a female complain about to MUCH communication.

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Uh oh, I'm gonna get it now.

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I'm from Texas, Larry, I can't help it. Nooo


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Sounds like a feeble attempt at justification to me...

Might as well say you can't help it because you use so much Aquanet.

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Originally Posted by Mark1952
Might as well say you can't help it because you use so much Aquanet.

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think hmmmm, I like that one! laugh


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Studies are showing that the hole in the ozone has moved from the pole to right above Mel's house.


G - how was last night? Did she try to contact you?


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What's going on this morning gnirlos? Any word from the inlaws, WW or OMW since your last update?


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It's either the Aquanet or the Pepsi.


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I exposed to DS15 and DD14 last night. That was the scariest thing i've ever done. I was trying to explain that mom made some choices that included a relationship with a married man that was more than friendship. DD14 asked, "What does that mean? Did they have sex? Gross. He's 50." "Your mom says that they did not have sex. I don't know for sure, but I do know that the relationship was more than good friends."

OMW sent me a text this morning saying that her daughters had found out that OM had not done anything for her for Valentine's Day. His oldest sent him a text on Monday that said, "If you are having an affair, I will never speak to you again." He's been a little moody since Monday, she says.

I f*d up last night in my attempt to retrieve the extremely long and damaging letter. A neighbor was walking his dog and saw me around the truck and then get back in my car and drive away. He went up to the house and woke WW up to find out if he should call the cops. She called me, since my car is fairly distinctive. We talked for about 20 minutes. Topics included asking me what I was thinking in talking to her parents, returning to MC, how rebuilding our marriage cannot occur until she ends her other relationship. I talked in a calm and quiet voice and occasionally repeated back portions of what she said, at one point, she said, "You sound like a robot."

This morning I asked her if she wanted me to trust and believe her if she would take a polygraph test. Her response, "How incredibly mean of u to ask that of me. Do u want a divorse? U really need to talk to a personal councelor." I said, "No, I do not want a divorce. Nor did you answer the question" She didn't reply, but we were also texting about setting up an appointment with the Harleys at the same time, so she may chosen to ignore it and deal with that topic instead.


I'm not a complete idiot. There are parts missing.
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