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#2325439 02/18/10 09:19 AM
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http://www.wesh.com/news/22590794/detail.html
Sad story--looks like the mom of two teens has killed the OW. From the story, sounds like the BW, WH, OW and OWH all trained for triathlons together. Now, many lives destroyed forever.
Sigh.
And the beat goes on.


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Very sad. Wanna take bets that her idiot WH will make BW out to be psycho (and has always been a psycho MrRollieEyes) and nothing is his fault? puke The mother of the BW turned her daughter in...that must have been gut wrenching but at least she had the presence of mind to do the right thing. I don't think the OW deserves death, but I honestly don't feel much sympathy for her.


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I read some of the reader comments on that story in another paper and it seems that some folks seem to consider the word "estranged" to mean "ex". As in, "The guy wasn't cheating--it was his EX wife." Seriously? So now, when a guy moves out, he's already an EX? This is like the people who say it's not cheating if they took their wedding ring off.


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When will people learn that their decisions have FAR-REACHING effects? I don't condone murder, but when WH and OW chose to break marriage vows and crush this BW's soul, they set something in motion that could not possibly have good results. Over and over these things happen. No, killing this OW isn't right, but I guarantee she would be alive if there had never been adultery. I hope that WH feels like absolute crap.

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Originally Posted by lurioosi2
When will people learn that their decisions have FAR-REACHING effects? I don't condone murder, but when WH and OW chose to break marriage vows and crush this BW's soul, they set something in motion that could not possibly have good results. Over and over these things happen. No, killing this OW isn't right, but I guarantee she would be alive if there had never been adultery. I hope that WH feels like absolute crap.

Honestly, Luri, do you think that ACTIVE waywards are capable of that much forethought?

I don't.


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Very sad...I agree that the stupid WH is going to not take one ounce of responsibility and blameshift his actions onto his BW: "see, she is crazy, that is why I left!" rather than "I wonder if my selfish actions could have contributed to this?".

I feel sad for any children involved. I obviously don't believe in murder but I also don't have a lot of sympathy for the OW. Actions always have consequences. I have more sympathy for the BW though her choice in killing this woman will never be justified...she just made ruined her own life AND made herself out to look insanely crazy.


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Kind of like the movie Unfaithful. A selfish spouse's actions destroyed the lives of two people.


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My opinion....

The relationship should be investigated, when it is found out that her husband had been having an affair with this OW since before the seperation,..... The BW should be charged with a misdemeanor, fined $100, and released.

The WH should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and tried for such.

In my book, that would be Justice.


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Originally Posted by Gack1
My opinion....

The relationship should be investigated, when it is found out that her husband had been having an affair with this OW since before the seperation,..... The BW should be charged with a misdemeanor, fined $100, and released.

The WH should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and tried for such.

In my book, that would be Justice.

Agreed. Unfortunately, unless someone has actually been through this nightmare, the pain it brings generally isn't understand by most people.


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And what is even worse is that many peole will think "well, the OW was surely in a lot of pain as well...she was "in love" with this man".

What is not understood is that she STOLE something that was not hers. She SIGNED UP to get involved with a MM...she knew EXACTLY what she was getting into.

The BW never had that same option. She did NOT know what she was signing up for and what was happening between her back.


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You'll find the same drama in greeley, colorado. Police officer was WH, BW kills OW at OW work place (bank), WH gets there, gets the gun, dives away, throws it out the window. Goes to court, Judge had A with WH too, so has to find another judge!

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Originally Posted by PSUBIKER
Kind of like the movie Unfaithful. A selfish spouse's actions destroyed the lives of two people.

Many more than two once the spouses and children are added in. And that isn't mentioning parents,grandparents, etc.

Infidelity is incredibly far-reaching and goes on for generations...when children don't have grandparents around, or aunts or uncles...and everyone is still all screwed up psychologically. The fallout is from adultery is huge.


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Originally Posted by themud
You'll find the same drama in greeley, colorado. Police officer was WH, BW kills OW at OW work place (bank), WH gets there, gets the gun, dives away, throws it out the window. Goes to court, Judge had A with WH too, so has to find another judge!

faint


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No OW woman is worth throwing your own life away and having it affect your kids....

but
I would like to hire her


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Originally Posted by hope3343
No OW woman is worth throwing your own life away and having it affect your kids....
Your right.

Which is why she should be released.


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Yet another reason to be open and honest about what adultery really does to people. Suffering in silence and trying to keep anyone from knowing - which used to be called "taking the high road" (blechh) - only does two things:

1) It allows the cheaters to enjoy their cheating in peace and quiet.

2) It lets everybody elde think that bad marriages cause adultery, instead of adultery causing bad marriages.

"Conventional Wisdom" says that divorce is no big deal anyway - everybody does it and kids are resilient and it's hardly different from trading in an old car. I think people have *no idea* of what adultery really does to families unless they've been directly involved - and if they were involved as children, they were almost certainly lied to about it and therefore walked blindly into the same situation as adults.

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Originally Posted by themud
You'll find the same drama in greeley, colorado. Police officer was WH, BW kills OW at OW work place (bank), WH gets there, gets the gun, dives away, throws it out the window. Goes to court, Judge had A with WH too, so has to find another judge!

Jeez, WH got around!

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Originally Posted by Gack1
My opinion....

The relationship should be investigated, when it is found out that her husband had been having an affair with this OW since before the seperation,..... The BW should be charged with a misdemeanor, fined $100, and released.

The WH should be charged with involuntary manslaughter and tried for such.

In my book, that would be Justice.

I very much agree that adulterers should be held criminally liable for the horrendous destruction they inflict on so many people. There used to be laws on the books in every state that held adulterers legally accountable for their crimes.


Dr Harley has done extensive research on this and outlines the history of American law on adultery Defending Traditional Marriage. There is no other crime that is as desrtuctive that where there no legal penalty.


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