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I have been urging Gn to expose the emails. I speculate he is holding them as a trump card. And yes Mel, they are all Texans, so we can probably expect more sanity from FIL than might be usual on say, the left coast. Dare I speculate that OM is from some location where they make fake hot sauce? Like NEW YAWK CITY??  Ohmigosh, this is going to be great! Please tell me OM is a yankee DAWG!  gn, please expose those emails. If you show selective ones to FIL, it will achieve 2 purposes: a) ENRAGE HIM because he will know OM is a predator and b) get back to your WW that he is player And you are doing a GREAT JOB!! Great job in getting your FIL on your side.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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PS for those not from Texas, it is that Austin is eat up with sissies from both coasts who moved there because they didn't like where they were, then proceeded to try to change things so they were more like where they were from. go figure. . . Austin is a suburb of California. A little land of fruits n' nuts. 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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GN Mel said it well: Ohmigosh, this is going to be great! Mel is excited for you. She rarely gets excited FOR someone on here. When she does, you are doing exactly what the book says to do. And Harley's methods are the only ones I have seen work. Again, nobody can predict the future, uh, except in the case of a BS who does NOT follow the book. Larry
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I called the appointment line back and gave Laurie (? gah...can't believe I've forgotten her name already) the information that I'm in Plan B. She said that Steve will make the final decision on whether we should do separate sessions or a combined session and that he will do that after we fill out the pre-session paperwork. This worked out PERFECT! 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I say we all hop in my white Ford truck and go over there and take care of that yankee dawg!! 
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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sign me up texan by choice here I agree with larry - these predator OMs seem to be multiplying. Other stitches on forum have similar OM.
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I say we all hop in my white Ford truck and go over there and take care of that yankee dawg!! Yanno it's funny - W and I were doing the RC questionnaire last month, and 'shooting - pistol' got top marks! I got a sitter for Saturday; guess where we're going? 
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I've lived in Austin for all but the first nine months of my life, except for brief sojourns out of town for college and work. WW was born and raised here (lived in the same house her entire life until her first marriage). FiL was born in the area, but lived in Oklahoma for his first marriage.
OM was born and grew up in Houston.
WW bought me a Glock 9mm for my birthday last year. That is/was the first gun I ever owned.
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Forget talking about guns. Do something productive. Show your FIL those emails that show OM to be nothing more than a serial cheater.
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Show fil those emails tonight.
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sign me up texan by choice here I agree with larry - these predator OMs seem to be multiplying. Other stitches on forum have similar OM. t/j Which ones? Please send me an email. Predators are my specialty. Cockroaches. . . Larry
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gnirlos,
PM me, we may have info to discuss and at the very least you can chat with me about it all in confidence. It says your messages are disabled. ?
I think everything you are doing is correct and applaud you for your facebook messages and original e-mail to all black belts and brown belts. I recognized your e-mail from the suggested one here.
Got stuck on your list by accident I think, but maybe it was no accident after all. Wanted to contact you from your facebook message, but didn't know if i should.
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Austin is a suburb of California. A little land of fruits n' nuts. 
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I didn't get a chance to print out the letters, but I did tell FiL about their contents. So, four items have come up today that cause me to be somewhat emotional/livid with WW. DD18 surprised me by coming over and we had a nice, long chat and I was given the opportunity to correct some of the lies that WW and OM have been spreading (such as the one that it was necessary for me to hack his FB account to send messages to his FB friends). DD18 and I both agreed that it's difficult for her to know the truth since she is getting information from both sides. However, DD18 does seem to believe more now, especially since OM's DD19 and my DD18 have been talking non-stop since Nuclear Exposure Monday. The items are: - During the breakfast with FiL, he told me that WW was concerned that I would be breaking and destroying her belongings that were still in the house.
- WW went to the county constable and they called while I was playing a game with DD18 (this call is actually what led to the discussion with DD18). The constable informed me that WW is still legally an owner of the house and that I could not legally keep her out, but that he couldn't tell me what I should do. He asked what I intended, so he could tell WW. I thanked him for his information and said that I will do as I see fit, but that I would not be providing him with any other response than that. I called my attorney who said that, since it's a civil matter that the constables likely won't get involved, but that I should have informed the constable that she had vacated the property earlier in the month. She said one thing that I could do is not be home if/when WW and the movers come by on Saturday. I told her that I was uncomfortable with that because I don't trust her enough to not break into the house. Her other suggestion, I did follow through with - I called FiL and told him that I would allow WW into the house WITH HIM for them to make a pass through the house, so she can make a list of items she would like. She can then provide me with the list, we will negotiate over the ones that are common property and I would have the items on which we agree packed and delivered to her. I have not heard back from FiL yet.
- DD18 had told WW that she was coming over. WW requested DD18 get DS15's birth certificate and SSN card for his driver's test BECAUSE WW TOLD DD18 THAT WW DIDN'T THINK I WOULD GIVE THEM UP. When DD14 came inside after getting the mail, she informed DD18 and myself that a neighbor told her that WW had just driven by. I guess she thought DD18 would be alone, so she could get in.
- WW IS TELLING PEOPLE, INCLUDING DD18, THAT THE PICTURE OF HER NETHER REGIONS THAT SHE SENT TO OM WAS ACTUALLY SENT TO ME
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gnirlos,PM me, we may have info to discuss and at the very least you can chat with me about it all in confidence. It says your messages are disabled. ? All PMs are disabled on purpose. You will need to contact the moderators and convince them of the value of giving you personal information about another poster.
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copsnrobbers - If you have my email address from the black/brown belt email, feel free to send me an email. You can also send me a FB message. My phone number was also in the email and FB messages.
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GN: I didn't get a chance to print out the letters, but I did tell FiL about their contents. What was his response? Without the emails, it may have been somewhat muted since the full impact would not have been there. Larry
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GN DD18 had told WW that she was coming over. WW requested DD18 get DS15's birth certificate and SSN card for his driver's test BECAUSE WW TOLD DD18 THAT WW DIDN'T THINK I WOULD GIVE THEM UP. When DD14 came inside after getting the mail, she informed DD18 and myself that a neighbor told her that WW had just driven by. I guess she thought DD18 would be alone, so she could get in. Now begins the campaign to discredit you with the kids. Sorry Larry
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