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Greetings,

Keeping it short, I discovered my H of 10 years(+3 kids) has been having an affair with his high-school girlfriend, also married (2 kids)

I jumped into Plan A. It's been 3 days. He says it's over and will not contact her any longer. He said she said the same.

I exposed the A to both sets of our parents, several of his close friends, and the OW's family as well.

My questions right now are this... Plan B means making him leave to see just how much he has to lose, correct? At what point do I do this? Do I need to do this? Do I wait until there is some sort of relapse?

He's talking to the pastor that married us to get counseling...

I don't know what to do next?


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Amy, welcome to Marriage Builders, sorry you are here. The next step is eliminate the conditions that led to the affair and work on recovering your marriage. That means that if he met his OW on facebook, he deletes facebook. If he was seeing her at work, he leaves the job. In other words the conditions that led to the affair have be changed so it doens't resume.

Did you expose the affair to the OM's H? Are you staying in touch with him so you can compare notes and ensure the affair is killed?

The next key step will be to recover your marriage by using the basic concepts of MB and creating a romantic marriage.

Originally Posted by Dr Harley in Requirements for Recovery
The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide.

I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail.

The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy.

This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that
will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted.

An analysis of the betrayed spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them.

After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts http://marriagebuilders.com/ca/to.cgi?l=qa080103bc
as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance.
here


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Did you expose the affair to the OM's H? Are you staying in touch with him so you can compare notes and ensure the affair is killed?

I told my H either she comes clean or I'd tell her H. Then I called her house and told her mother. He mother called back for details and to talk to my H's parents (they were high school sweethearts so the families know/knew each other)

I have not had any other contact but I have all "offending" and obvious emails and would send them to him if he asked.



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Originally Posted by darkamy
I told my H either she comes clean or I'd tell her H.

Without talking to OWH yourself you have no way of knowing if anyone told him or not.

And make backup copies of all your evidence, and hide it somewhere out of the house. Evidence has this funny way of disappearing, you know?

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Originally Posted by darkamy
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I told my H either she comes clean or I'd tell her H.

Hi darkamy, Welcome to MB, sorry you have to find yourself here.

It may be best that you expose to OWH yourself. How will you know that OW came clean, and if she actually told the truth?


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Her mother called my number and talked to my FIL. From those 2 I am 99% certain her H knows. According to my FIL, her mother is not one to hold her tongue.

Granted, I didn't speak the words directly into his own ear through the telephone, so I suppose there is that minute chance he does not know.


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Originally Posted by darkamy
I told my H either she comes clean or I'd tell her H. Then I called her house and told her mother. He mother called back for details and to talk to my H's parents (they were high school sweethearts so the families know/knew each other)

Amy, I would get ahold of him anyway. It is not uncommon for parents to cover up affairs for their kids. And even if he does know, you can speak to him and make sure he has the correct and complete story. Offer to keep in touch with him so you can compare notes and make sure this affair stays dead.

I want to applaud you for your exposure! You did more to save your marriage than just about anything else you could have done. You did a GREAT JOB!


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I just love brave people!! hurray


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I want to applaud you for your exposure! You did more to save your marriage than just about anything else you could have done. You did a GREAT JOB!

I didn't even know it was a good thing until I came on here yesterday and today.

He says he sorry and wants "to come home" and be a husband and a good father. (He never technically left, just mentally and emotionally checked out)

I still feel gut-punched and don't know what to do now.....

our kids are 6,4, & 9m


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Amy,

Sorry you are here but you are in the right place. So much to learn from so many caring and giving people that have been where you find yourself now.

Great job exposing! You did it by instinct and you were right on. I agree with others that you should definitely call OWH husband yourself and compare notes. He may know things you don't know and vice versa. Then you should keep in touch with him periodically so that you are both watching what is going on and work together to best insure the affair is dead.

Keep posting here. You will get amazing support.

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I didn't even know it was a good thing until I came on here yesterday and today.

He says he sorry and wants "to come home" and be a husband and a good father. (He never technically left, just mentally and emotionally checked out)

I still feel gut-punched and don't know what to do now.....

our kids are 6,4, & 9m



Sorry you find yourself here, member of a club no one wants to join.
Having arrived here...

Way to go you are off to a good start.
Read up on plan A and B.
Step 1 - establish NC. Make sure that your WH UNDERSTANDS that NC is a HUGE condition for this recovery to procced and succeed.Have WH write a NC letter and send off to OW.
Read up carrot and stick of plan A.Forget about plan B for now.
After you have read up on a carrot and stick of plan A post back on what specific steps you are taking as the carrot and what sticks are you putting in place.

You and your M can get thru this!


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Great start on exposure! You'll be batting 1000 if you expose this to OWH. That'll put a second set of eyes on the A to help make sure NC remains in place.

Don't count on an alleged mouthy mother to do this for you.


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Okay, so as I see it right now, this is what your next few tasks are. Read all you can on here. Read all of the articles about Plan A. You already have the exposure started so GREAT JOB. Read other people's threads.

You're doing GREAT. Stay Calm. Don't tell WH about this place YET. Are you getting the book Surviving an Affair(SAA)? You should, it's GREAT. Also, I would recommend His Needs, Her Needs and Love Busters.

Here are some threads for you to read.
http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2276398#Post2276398
http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/u...t&Number=2296184&nt=2&page=1


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tell me, if I want to be assured that the OW won't intercept a mailed letter, do I send it certified?




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Originally Posted by darkamy
tell me, if I want to be assured that the OW won't intercept a mailed letter, do I send it certified?

Take it to the post office and tell them that you want to make sure it gets to the intended party. They'll tell you the best way. See if they can leave him a card telling him he has to come to the post office with ID to sign for and retrieve the letter.


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Originally Posted by darkamy
tell me, if I want to be assured that the OW won't intercept a mailed letter, do I send it certified?

Amy, it is better to just CALL him or go see him. This way you can exchange information. He likely knows quite a bit that you need to know.


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Originally Posted by darkamy
tell me, if I want to be assured that the OW won't intercept a mailed letter, do I send it certified?

Amy, it is better to just CALL him or go see him. This way you can exchange information. He likely knows quite a bit that you need to know.

In person is the best bang for the buck, for sure. Can you meet with him? There is also the added benefit of his seeing you, calm and composed, factually explaining the A. He'll see that you're not a crazy person that his WW will likely paint you to be.


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They live 2 hours away. I can try.... I'm just trying to sort it out still (as you all know as well sadly)


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Amy, I would just pick up the phone and call him. Do you know where he works?


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No, but as we speak I'm doing a background check so I'm sure I'll find out shortly.....

I'll update as soon as I know more......


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