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Like what bowing down for him and walking ten paces behind  LOL
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Chris,
Mr W was poking fun at the videos and said that tongue in cheek.
That was why I didn't "challenge" him.
I don't for one minute think Mr W believes that Mark Gungor is a misogynist.
Any more than I believe for one second that Mark Gungor is a closet gay.
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Okey doke. We shall hertofore agree to disagree. I look forward to reading more of your posts on other topics. Friday is my favorite day of the week because it's full of promise and possibilities for the weekend. I hope you get all your morning taskings done Mark. Have a wonderful Friday. 
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Well there is more than one woman on here who felt the same way as Chris, but perhaps our "defective" brains just can not understand the videos .
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Mr. Wondering <---If you haven't watched the [first] video you won't get my sarcasm This was why I didn't challenge Mr W's comments. I didn't think he said it except in jest...
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Chris,
Mr W was poking fun at the videos and said that tongue in cheek.
That was why I didn't "challenge" him.
I don't for one minute think Mr W believes that Mark Gungor is a misogynist.
Any more than I believe for one second that Mark Gungor is a closet gay.
Mark Mark, ChrisNOVA called you "condescending". Big word for a girl, eh? Mr. W p.s. - YES...I was being ironic by seemingly judging both Mark's heart and the comedians...as I apparently predictly EXACTLY what I KNEW some women (no woman in particular) would think when listening. Interestingly, I had seen these video's before...my WIFE cued them up off youtube and we watched them together as a comedy clip (we both enjoyed them). Again...I think getting there by linking off MB throws you for a loop...as though the guy is trying to be a serious marriage counselor. The greek pedestal in the background almost has you believing it's an MB clip.
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..... . .......Chris exiting the thread
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By the way - re/ the women in the video laughing: Stockholm Syndrome is real. 
BW - me
exWH - serial cheater
2 awesome kids
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Many a good man has failed because he had a wishbone where his backbone should have been.
We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we think we cannot.
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p.s. - YES...I was being ironic by seemingly judging both Mark's heart and the comedians...as I apparently predictly EXACTLY what I KNEW some women (no woman in particular) would think when listening. Interestingly, I had seen these video's before...my WIFE cued them up off youtube and we watched them together as a comedy clip (we both enjoyed them). Again...I think getting there by linking off MB throws you for a loop...as though the guy is trying to be a serious marriage counselor. The greek pedestal in the background almost has you believing it's an MB clip. I do believe that more than just Chris found them bad and i am glad that you and Mrs W enjoyed them, i would not want my husband to even watch them, it would give him more of a reason to not listen to me as my "feeling" are just "defective" anyway......
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By the way - re/ the women in the video laughing: Stockholm Syndrome is real. Why this? Just because it was a strange comment or you do not believe it is real, because i agree with Chris on that one too, i have seen too many shows and read too many books on the subject.
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lol I must be a closet guy since I grokked immediately what MrW was saying... I was confused by Chris's interpretation... I do disagree though that men don't compare. Isn't there even a special word for the special type of envy that men can get? 
me - 47  H - 39  married 2001 DS 8a  DS 8b :crosseyedcrazy: (Why is DS7b now a blockhead???) (Ack! Now he's not even a blockhead, just a word! That's no fun!)
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Didn't particularly like the videos, even though the concepts weren't new and I've seen them in other circumstances that annoyed me less.
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- He did the 'man-voice' in a relatively normal voice, but did the 'woman-voice' in this high-pitched, whiny SCREECH. Not exactly neutral. I listen to a lot of podcasts where men and women do both sexes convincingly and compassionately, and this wasn't one. Uneven distribution of ridicule. Not every woman talks like your stereotypical overbearing mother-in-law. Not even real overbearing mothers-in-law. :p
- I'm not sure of the context of these vids, but he wasn't explaining both brains, he was saying how men shouldn't have to be bothered by women's needs. The nothing box is a normal, healthy, if odd-looking, habit, but the need for connection is not given the same treatment.
- The man commands the woman to GO AWAY (with the subtext of 'if you want my LB$ to stay in the black) but the woman never commands the man to COME HERE AND CONNECT (with the same subtext). So it seems the woman must change her instincts to keep her man happy, but the man faces no such task.
Besides, the whole thing seems to be pro-IB - men and women don't have anything to say to each other and men actually rather women DON'T interfere with their recreational activities. Compatibility is not going to happen anyway, because I as a man don't want anyone near me and you as a woman are unrelatable-to, so why bother?
Of course it's meant to be FUNNY (which always includes some aspects of mockery) and speeches meant to enhance compatibility and respect are rarely FUNNY.
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... again, me <----- confused.... Did something get left out of that post, or was something supposed to be in a different font? Because all I see is just one quote box, looks like you just re-posted someone else's post without adding what your thoughts/point was.
me - 47 H - 39 married 2001 DS 8a DS 8b :crosseyedcrazy: (Why is DS7b now a blockhead???) (Ack! Now he's not even a blockhead, just a word! That's no fun!)
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Maybe I should make sure *I* am not being misunderstood... "grok" is a particularly expressive way of saying "understand". To "grok" something is to understand it deeply, internally. I believe I understand Mark's point. Of course, he may not mean what I think he means, but I think so! Humor. I get it. As far as understanding the Male Brain and being sensitive to my H's needs, I have found the works of the renowned Mr. D. Barry to be quite enlightening and educational. I have quoted him before. Yes, he does make some broad, sweeping generalizations. But I find it very helpful to read his work with an open mind, and consider the possibility for there to be some truth in what he says, and look for the pearls of insight.
me - 47 H - 39 married 2001 DS 8a DS 8b :crosseyedcrazy: (Why is DS7b now a blockhead???) (Ack! Now he's not even a blockhead, just a word! That's no fun!)
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I must be a closet guy since I grokked immediately what MrW was saying...  Me too!
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey
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AHA!!!!! Your sig is the quote I was thinking of when I said "I believe I understand Mark's point. Of course, he may not mean what I think he means, but I think so!" I.e.: "I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. - Robert McCloskey" So, can I hand-clappy-thing too?
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p.s. - YES...I was being ironic by seemingly judging both Mark's heart and the comedians...as I apparently predictly EXACTLY what I KNEW some women (no woman in particular) would think when listening. Interestingly, I had seen these video's before...my WIFE cued them up off youtube and we watched them together as a comedy clip (we both enjoyed them). Again...I think getting there by linking off MB throws you for a loop...as though the guy is trying to be a serious marriage counselor. The greek pedestal in the background almost has you believing it's an MB clip. I do believe that more than just Chris found them bad and i am glad that you and Mrs W enjoyed them, i would not want my husband to even watch them, it would give him more of a reason to not listen to me as my "feeling" are just "defective" anyway...... REALLY? That seems really odd to me - when Mr. W and I laugh together it creates even more of a connection between us! Mr. W doesn't find me or my feelings defective in any way - of that I am POSITIVELY SURE! There couldn't be a better listener on the planet than Mr. W, imo...And he doesn't just sit there and stare at me blankly while pretending to listen - he engages me - and will say things like, "Wow, I bet that made you feel ___________, huh?" and other very empathetic questions/statements... WHY? Because he LOVES me, but more importantly, I TRUST that he does...I go on the basic premise that he adores me, and that we are on the same team - so even if he doesn't always say the perfect thing - I don't need to sit and wonder, "Why did he say that? I'll bet it's because he really thinks ___________." [which would be a DJ] No, instead I trust that he loves me and can't always read the script that may be playing in my head - heck, I know I'd hate to disrespectfully judged harshly - so why do it to my TEAM MATE? I'm not perfect, and neither is Mr. W, but we ARE perfect for each other - because we choose to play on the same team... And ladies, LIGHTEN UP - the COMEDIAN was FUNNY! Life really isn't that hard...Besides, in analyzing and judging him, do you all not realize that you are only serving to PROVE the very points that he made that you all are so vehemently protesting? Which, c'mon, you gotta admit, is WAY funny on this glorious Friday afternoon!  Take Care, Mrs. W
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Mark,
ChrisNOVA called you "condescending". Big word for a girl, eh?
Mr. W Chris...I posted this running out the door (late as I was). But I wanted to be certain to state to you that sometimes I post for my own humor....such humor won't always come across effectively if at all in the written word. I've been waiting a long time to use this post above in response to someone calling ME condescending. I just think it's a hilarious response to being called such. Plus...I had the added bonus of ironically [considering the conversations above] appearing misogynistic with the "for a girl" part of it. Thanks for indulging me and I hope you realize no offense was meant at all. Just cutting up and trying to be clever. Mr. Wondering
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Mark,
ChrisNOVA called you "condescending". Big word for a girl, eh?
Mr. W Chris...I posted this running out the door (late as I was). But I wanted to be certain to state to you that sometimes I post for my own humor....such humor won't always come across effectively if at all in the written word. I've been waiting a long time to use this post above in response to someone calling ME condescending. I just think it's a hilarious response to being called such. Plus...I had the added bonus of ironically [considering the conversations above] appearing misogynistic with the "for a girl" part of it. Thanks for indulging me and I hope you realize no offense was meant at all. Just cutting up and trying to be clever. Mr. Wondering And it was HILARIOUS!!!  I had trouble breathing after reading your post!!! Of course, I have the benefit of knowing you... BUT SERIOUSLY... I wouldn't be offended if any man said that - because I go on the basic premise that MEN ADORE WOMEN - Sure, jokes are made about the differences between men and women, but at the end of the day, I believe men love women and women love men - and that their differences are a GREAT thing - I have no desire to be like a man - and I sure as heck have no desire for men to be like women - ICK! We ARE different - that doesn't mean one is better than the other - just different - necessarily so...God made us that way ON PURPOSE, so that we each would serve DIFFERENT, but EQUALLY IMPORTANT purposes - that God is a smart fella!  I do think it's KEY to TRUST that men love women - and I think that may be what's missing for those ladies on this thread that don't find the comedian funny...Something to think about perhaps? Mrs. W
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ChrisNOVA called you "condescending". Big word for a girl, eh? Here's a fun game. Take out the word "girl" and put in another descriptor. Like: Big word for a Black person, eh? Big word for a Polish person, eh? Big word for a Hispanic, eh? Big word for a Swede, eh? Well, this is actually kind of funny. Unless you're a Swede, I suppose. . . Humor at another person's expense and then telling them they lack a sense of humor when they don't buy into it--dirty pool, old boy.
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