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Well, my stress levels are up again a bit today. I can't imagine how people who go through really messy situations manage to cope.
At 9:55 a.m. I received an email from my attorney. The Leopard is still stalling, making spurious comments about abiding by the original agreement, including how I have breached it and she hasn't. Without an attorney, she is making loud noises as if she were one (in a previous life she worked as a legal investigator for a tech company). I have told my attorney that she is to respond ONLY to calls from The Leopard's attorney, should she find it convenient to hire one.
Then my attorney had the temerity to suggest that I agree to an addendum allowing her to make monthly payments, and that if she is "unable to make even one monthly payment" I'll get the Jeep back.
I reminded my lawyer that we had stated previously "These are the only two options Mr. Fred will accept." I also told my lawyer that I had tried to avoid conflict in the marriage, choosing to "pick my fights wisely." And that when I chose to fight, I fight to win.
My attorney is drafting a final response to The Leopard. I have stated that the noon deadline has come and gone, and that in her earlier email, The Leopard has said, "I do not agree to either of the proposed amendments." Therefore, I expect the Jeep to be parked in front of my house no later than midnight tonight.
I've mowed my lawn, trimmed the edges, grilled some burgers for lunch, and still feel "antsy."
I really want this to be over. Her sense of entitlement and warped ideas of being "honest" drive me nuts!
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Well, my stress levels are up again a bit today. I can't imagine how people who go through really messy situations manage to cope.
At 9:55 a.m. I received an email from my attorney. The Leopard is still stalling, making spurious comments about abiding by the original agreement, including how I have breached it and she hasn't. Without an attorney, she is making loud noises as if she were one (in a previous life she worked as a legal investigator for a tech company). I have told my attorney that she is to respond ONLY to calls from The Leopard's attorney, should she find it convenient to hire one.
Then my attorney had the temerity to suggest that I agree to an addendum allowing her to make monthly payments, and that if she is "unable to make even one monthly payment" I'll get the Jeep back.
I reminded my lawyer that we had stated previously "These are the only two options Mr. Fred will accept." I also told my lawyer that I had tried to avoid conflict in the marriage, choosing to "pick my fights wisely." And that when I chose to fight, I fight to win.
My attorney is drafting a final response to The Leopard. I have stated that the noon deadline has come and gone, and that in her earlier email, The Leopard has said, "I do not agree to either of the proposed amendments." Therefore, I expect the Jeep to be parked in front of my house no later than midnight tonight.
I've mowed my lawn, trimmed the edges, grilled some burgers for lunch, and still feel "antsy."
I really want this to be over. Her sense of entitlement and warped ideas of being "honest" drive me nuts! I am right there with you....my divorce is also final, but Xwh continues to drag out the property division until I want to scream. He has petitioned the court to force me to sell to him at a low price, but won't sign a listing agreement to see if we can sell it for what *I* (and realtors) think it is worth. A week ago I asked him to sign the listing agreement. On Thursday he said he needed 48 hours to review it....Now it is Monday at noon.... Oh and on top of that he won't even make an official 'offer' for the low price. Just keeps hinting that he will offer that much or that he already has offered that amount. So yeah...I know how you feel...I just want it DONE!
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Fred, did you set yourself up on USAJobs?
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Fred, did you set yourself up on USAJobs? Nope, not yet. I'll look at it, but truthfully, a federal job is not what I'm looking for. Thank you for the mention, and I will definitely check it out.
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(Note that the subject line reads "Power of AN Attorney," not "Power OF Attorney"). This is the letter drafted by my attorney that I have approved and should be winging its way through the ether to her as I type. It is so good that I thought I should share it. Dear Mrs. Fred,
We had extended the deadline by which you could exercise either of the payment options to Monday, April 5, 2010 at noon. As you have not transmitted a lump sum payment or provided documents evidencing your refinance to myself or Mr. Fred�s intermediary, we consider our offer rejected. You shall have until midnight on April 5, 2010 to return the Jeep and the vehicle keys to Mr. Fred. If the Jeep is not returned to Mr. Fred by midnight on April 5, 2010, Mr. Fred will have no choice but to file a breach of contract against you in court.
In response to your email of April 5, 2010, please note that we have not conducted any illegal or erroneous investigations of you. Mr. Fred was aware at the time the Property Settlement Agreement was drafted and executed that you were not employed and did not otherwise have a steady source of income. Mr. Fred has also informed me that your creditors have been calling his residence in their attempts to locate you. Mr. Fred has not in any way violated the terms of the Property Settlement Agreement by informing me of your employment or credit status. He has also not violated the Agreement by sending the letters to which you refer in your email, as he has informed me that he sent those letters before the Agreement was signed. Further, the Property Settlement Agreement specifically states that if you are to retain the Jeep Liberty after March 31, 2010, you are responsible for making all payments on the vehicle. Since the vehicle loan is in Mr. Fred�s name, and considering that you are already in significant amounts of debt as evidenced by your creditors contacting Mr. Fred, it would be unconscionable of you to retain the vehicle and promising to make payments to him without first demonstrating that you have an ability to pay, whether through proof of employment or other steady source of income. You have thus far not made a single good faith payment towards the vehicle, despite the fact that you have had use of it since November 2009 and that Mr. Fred generously extended the deadline from March 31, 2010 to April 5, 2010.
Please also note that Mr. Fred has provided me with an email from his insurance agent confirming that the auto policy is now in Mr. Fred�s name alone. Any further inquiries regarding the vehicle insurance should be directed toward the insurance agency.
Finally, Mr. Fred has repeatedly requested that you contact his intermediary rather than me to resolve any further issues arising from the Property Settlement Agreement. As I am not authorized to entertain any further contact with you, all future contact regarding this matter must now come from your attorney, should you choose to retain one.
Sincerely,
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Mr. Fred has also informed me that your creditors have been calling his residence in their attempts to locate you. Mr. Fred has not in any way violated the terms of the Property Settlement Agreement by informing me of your employment or credit status. He has also not violated the Agreement by sending the letters to which you refer in your email, as he has informed me that he sent those letters before the Agreement was signed. Further, the Property Settlement Agreement specifically states that if you are to retain the Jeep Liberty after March 31, 2010, you are responsible for making all payments on the vehicle. Since the vehicle loan is in Mr. Fred�s name, and considering that you are already in significant amounts of debt as evidenced by your creditors contacting Mr. Fred, it would be unconscionable of you to retain the vehicle and promising to make payments to him without first demonstrating that you have an ability to pay, whether through proof of employment or other steady source of income. Please also note that Mr. Fred has provided me with an email from his insurance agent confirming that the auto policy is now in Mr. Fred�s name alone. Any further inquiries regarding the vehicle insurance should be directed toward the insurance agency.
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Nope, not yet.
I'll look at it, but truthfully, a federal job is not what I'm looking for.
Thank you for the mention, and I will definitely check it out. What kind of job are you looking for?
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What kind of job are you looking for? I've spent the past ten years doing pre-sales systems engineering. My field is database (Oracle) performance tuning. I wouldn't mind getting back into the "trenches" again, but I need to play "catch-up" with the latest developments in database technology for that to be a reality.
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It's now past 8:00 a.m. on the 6th of April, and the street in front of my home is notable by the absence of a vehicle that should have been parked there no later than midnight last night.
If this were another venue I would ask the rhetorical question, "Are wayward spouses all this stupid, or did I just happen to marry an especially stupid one?"
For, as she has been apprised, she is now in "breach of contract" by not returning my Jeep by the designated time. I will now have to work with my lawyer to explore my options.
And The Leopard HAS to know that it would be cheaper for her to return the Jeep rather than fight over it. The fact is, due to rolling in the loan on her old car, the outstanding balance on the Jeep is worth more than the car. She could go get an identical Jeep on her own and PAY LESS.
Reading that again, I think I have no choice but to believe I married an especially stupid one.
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I'd like a side-by-side comparison with PSUBIKER's XWW. She's phenomenally stupid.
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(((Fred)))
The sooner you get this wayward out of your life both emotionally and legally, the better off you will be.
Stupidity seems to be growing like cancer within her brain.
BS - me 56 XWH - 57
12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.
6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.
9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented WH wants nothing to do with me
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Funny you should mention that, Pep... I've been logged on here most of the day, and this is the first opportunity I've had to post. So as to not bore anyone, here is a condensed (as much as I can) version of today's events: - No Jeep at midnight. No Jeep this morning. No Jeep at all.
- Attorney first said nothing I could do but wait until we file for divorce, and then file a motion to compel her to return it.
- Attorney then consulted with partners and said I was within my rights per our agreement and as sole owner of Jeep to repossess it.
- Contacted a repo company, who took pity on me, and since I have a key, dropped their recovery price to $195. This includes 15 days of FREE storage on their lot.
- Asked attorney if I should alert her that if she doesn't return Jeep by her means I would return it by mine.
- Attorney agreed notifying of intent would be the "amenable" thing to do.
- Said "screw it" to being amenable. She's had six months of free transportation and now wants to eat more cake?
- Sent fax to repo company stating my intent to hire them.
- Am waiting for repo company to contact me with arrangements to give them the key.
So, how'd I do? Was that brief enough? There is more, mostly whining, screaming and holding-my-breath-til-I'm-blue-in-the-face posturing by WW. But I won't bore you with that now.
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[*]Asked attorney if I should alert her that if she doesn't return Jeep by her means I would return it by mine. [*]Attorney agreed notifying of intent would be the "amenable" thing to do. IMO, it would also be the stupid thing to do. Your WW has already made it clear by her actions that she has no intent of fulfilling her end of the bargain, and by warning her beforehand, you're giving her more opportunity to either do something to the jeep, or do something else to make it even more difficult for you to recover it.
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Funny you should mention that, Pep... I've been logged on here most of the day, and this is the first opportunity I've had to post. So as to not bore anyone, here is a condensed (as much as I can) version of today's events: - No Jeep at midnight. No Jeep this morning. No Jeep at all.
- Attorney first said nothing I could do but wait until we file for divorce, and then file a motion to compel her to return it.
- Attorney then consulted with partners and said I was within my rights per our agreement and as sole owner of Jeep to repossess it.
- Contacted a repo company, who took pity on me, and since I have a key, dropped their recovery price to $195. This includes 15 days of FREE storage on their lot.
- Asked attorney if I should alert her that if she doesn't return Jeep by her means I would return it by mine.
- Attorney agreed notifying of intent would be the "amenable" thing to do.
- Said "screw it" to being amenable. She's had six months of free transportation and now wants to eat more cake?
- Sent fax to repo company stating my intent to hire them.
- Am waiting for repo company to contact me with arrangements to give them the key.
So, how'd I do? Was that brief enough? There is more, mostly whining, screaming and holding-my-breath-til-I'm-blue-in-the-face posturing by WW. But I won't bore you with that now. Ahh Fred, you get to have all the fun!! 
BS - me 56 XWH - 57
12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.
6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.
9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented WH wants nothing to do with me
Divorced as of 12/09 after 36 years
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dropped their recovery price to $195 Money well spent, I say !
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There is more, mostly whining, screaming and holding-my-breath-til-I'm-blue-in-the-face posturing by WW. Many times we've seen the WW try "flirt and charm" after whining screaming fails.
I'm just warning you .... it's not at all unusual.
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Oh goody! Dinner and a show tonight!
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Ahh Fred, you get to have all the fun!! Yeah? Then why am I not smiling? I really should be looking for a job instead of frittering my time away on stuff that just "shouldn't be." Sorry, ChaiLover, I'm not taking it out on you. I'm just venting my frustration that this has taken most of the g*dd*mn day. I dressed to go for a run this morning! It's now almost 4:00 p.m., the temperature has risen to 92�F and I'm still not free to leave the telephone (not to mention I'm not in shape for summer running, yet). But the award goes to PSUBIKER's xWW. Mine hasn't gone as far as she did. Yet.
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It's 92 degrees in Virginia?
At 6 am today we had a full out booming thunderstorm with lightning move across the metro area dropping up to 2" of sleet in under an hour. The highway was like driving up a river.
Snow forcasted for tonight.
Damn your mangy flea ridden hide Punxsutawney Phil!!
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