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#2374821 05/17/10 11:47 AM
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Hello,

I was reading an article about LBS, that talked about spouses who were left behind.
I thought these stages were very close to the steps that I went through as a BS:

Denial / Shattering
Bargaining
Anger
Depression
Resentment
Acceptance
Self Growth
Forgiveness
Renewal
Living Again.

Any to add?


Me; W 46
Him; H 46

2 girls
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DD16
Dated/Married total 28 years.
..I am learning and working on myself.
barbiecat #2374875 05/17/10 12:46 PM
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How exactly did they define a "left-behind spouse?"


Me, BW
WH cheated in corporate workplace for many years. He moved out and filed in summer 2008.
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I am not liking the living again coming AFTER the forgivness...if that is the case, I guess I am never getting to the living again part. uhuh


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DS - 9
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DDay aug 2007
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Mulan:
Their term. I imagine the spouse that still wants the union, after the other checks out. But I could be wrong.

I also have issues with anger and resentment being apart. To me they are one in the same.

sh8:
Sure you will.

They also said that people don't streamline down the list. Many bounce from one to other, and many "cycle around" when a trigger happens.
.....Now I can't find the darn link.


I hope to have this thread focus as a positive link for BS feelings.

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Dated/Married total 28 years.
..I am learning and working on myself.
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Originally Posted by barbiecat
Mulan:
I also have issues with anger and resentment being apart. To me they are one in the same.

This is really interesting.

Question: Is anger the foundation for resentment or vice versa?

I definitely bounce around between various stages. It almost seems like once you hang your hat on acceptance and self-growth for awhile, you can start to turn that corner.

I guess I'm not there yet......

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I would like to read the whole article if you can find it.

Definitely agree about bouncing around the list. I'm stuck bouncing between resentment and acceptance like a pinball, which leaves little energy for self-growth.

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Yes, it is very similar to the grieving stages...and you can bounce back and forth on those, but I think you have to go through them all eventually.
http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html


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DDay aug 2007
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Originally Posted by barbiecat
Denial / Shattering
Bargaining
Anger
Depression
Resentment
Acceptance
Self Growth
Forgiveness
Renewal
Living Again.

Well, I've got the shattering, bargaining, depression stages down. Maybe a LITTLE of self growth. Bouncing between acceptance, anger, and resentment currently. I have so far to go..... :P


Me: BW, 27
Him: WH, 29
DD 4
DS 1
Married 07/25/09
A began end of 08/2009 (possibly sooner)
D-Day: 3/31/10
2nd D-Day: 4/9/2010
3rd D-Day: 4/21/10

Plan B (shortlived as it was): 18/05/10
WH decides to work on marriage: 20/05/10
False Recovery, Back to Plan B: 13/08/10

Filed for D Feb 2011, D April 2012

Looking forward to the sunshine and rainbows life should hold for us all!
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Originally Posted by NewPetals
Originally Posted by barbiecat
Denial / Shattering
Bargaining
Anger
Depression
Resentment
Acceptance
Self Growth
Forgiveness
Renewal
Living Again.

Well, I've got the shattering, bargaining, depression stages down. Maybe a LITTLE of self growth. Bouncing between acceptance, anger, and resentment currently. I have so far to go..... :P

I am bouncing and very stuck between resentment/acceptance and self growth. This for me has been the killer. I want to go to self growth- but I deep getting pulled back.

I believe only way to really "finish" is to move ahead. (how?)


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Originally Posted by schtoop
I would like to read the whole article if you can find it.

Definitely agree about bouncing around the list. I'm stuck bouncing between resentment and acceptance like a pinball, which leaves little energy for self-growth.

and when you realize that, you are moving ahead. That is what I am trying to do with this. Feel the emotion, try to label it for what it really is, appreciate and validate it and MOVE on.
Can anyone add a stage?


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yes, I think you have to at least hit a stage before you move on to the next on....Sometimes you get stuck and sometimes you quickly move through a stage. Maybe you are stuck because you are supposed to be, ya know? IDK, I am stuck on the anger and depression but I have touched on the acceptance...so I gotta move to the resentment from the anger I guess...somehow.


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DS - 9
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DDay aug 2007
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Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
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Maybe after acceptence comes Hope...like in the grief thingie....I think the Hope is very important...Hope for a happy future without spouse, I guess.


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DDay aug 2007
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Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
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where would you locate hope?


Oh, Wait! I see now:

Denial / Shattering
Bargaining
Anger
Depression
Resentment
Acceptance
HOPE
Self Growth
Forgiveness
Renewal
Living Again.


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Me; W 46
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2 girls
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DD16
Dated/Married total 28 years.
..I am learning and working on myself.
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Maybe after acceptance....JMHO, you dont need to do it or anything...


BW me-41
WH -39
DS - 9
married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
Plan B

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barbiecat #2375397 05/18/10 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by barbiecat
where would you locate hope?


Oh, Wait! I see now:

Denial / Shattering
Bargaining
Anger
Depression
Resentment
Acceptance
HOPE
Self Growth
Forgiveness
Renewal
Living Again.

Yeah, what do you think, no? I just know I have touched upon acceptance (like yeah, hes gone, this is my life now), but I dont know about the hope thingie yet. I think the hope is like, I can be HAPPY without WH, Idk...


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DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
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Well, the part I desperately look for is renewal. It was described as a new "enthusiasm" for life. Like a ton of bricks has been lifted from your soul.

With or without your spouse, apparently in a healthy recovery it will come. I have had both recovered/divorced friends talk about this phenomina>sp?/realization. I guess it is when you realize that you are really, really going to be "OK".

Oh, Lord, may it come soon...

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Yeah, that sounds good to me too, barbiecat....I just dont see it for me. I hope your friends are right....


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married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
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I've bounced around in this pool of emotions for a long time. Does jealousy fit in there anywhere?



BS - me 56
XWH - 57

12/25/06 - Dday - WH promised NC. Plan A in effect. Thought we were in recovery.

6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.

9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented
WH wants nothing to do with me

Divorced as of 12/09 after 36 years
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Ohhhhhh, jealousy, good one.


BW me-41
WH -39
DS - 9
married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
Plan B

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I have jealousy for OW, who has the man I love....and jealousy for WH for having someone to love and that loves him(even though he acted like the scum of the earth)for who he is, while I am still alone.


BW me-41
WH -39
DS - 9
married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered
DDay aug 2007
found MB dec 2007
Moved out april 2008
still seeing OW
Plan B

Okay I fixed the ages, it was looking screwy. smile
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