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#2376524 05/20/10 08:00 AM
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What does fog mean.

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As in they are in a FOG

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fog is where the affair people are living in a fantasy world about the relationship. It's not real life and they make up all kinds of excuses as to why it's right and good....
Look up fog babble on this site, they re-write history to justify their affairs.....


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Share your story so we can fit advice to your needs. How about a time line.

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Ok I have to be careful because I think she is reading this web site.
My wife was put on a temporary project by her employee located in different cities. This was late in the fall of last year. For the first few months there were no problems. We talked everyday we could and everything was fine. Then she went to the final city. After about a month she started saying don't call unless you have something to say. Most of our calls were the silly nothings that married people talk about. She was under a lot of pressure so I just chalked it up to that. Then she started with how she has been unhappy for our whole marriage (20 years). Then I received a warning that she was doing things that she shouldn�t be doing. That she had spent the night with someone else. I was able to confirm this in a different manner. So I tried to ask her about the warning and all of sudden I couldn�t get a hold of her. This was late spring. I finally got a hold of her the next morning and asked her. At first she blew up asking who was I going to believe the person that gave me the warning, have no idea who that was, or her. Well I told her that I believed the person. I was driving at the time and told her I had to go because I didn�t want to get in an accident. She called me later that day and continued to deny it. So I told her how I had confirmed it with another source. She continued to deny so I said good bye and hung up. She finally admitted it. For about 5 weeks she refused to stop having contact with this person. Since she was in another city I couldn�t do anything other then ask her to stop. Of course I still can�t do anything to make her stop other then tell her if she doesn�t that we are done.
I�ve started going to a counselor and reading this web site. I understand I am not at fault for her making the decision to do what she did. I also understand that I haven�t been the husband I should be. It seems like we make progress and then something happens. She hasn�t had contact with him that I know of for the last two weeks. I can�t do exposure because it would have serve legal consequences if I do. I can�t explain, but it would.
We have two children and they both know. Not because of me, but because of her. They are really anger at her, but I think they would forgive her if she gave them a chance. Some days she does and others she doesn�t.

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Originally Posted by surprisedguy
Ok I have to be careful because I think she is reading this web site.
My wife was put on a temporary project by her employee located in different cities. This was late in the fall of last year. For the first few months there were no problems. We talked everyday we could and everything was fine. Then she went to the final city. After about a month she started saying don't call unless you have something to say. Most of our calls were the silly nothings that married people talk about. She was under a lot of pressure so I just chalked it up to that. Then she started with how she has been unhappy for our whole marriage (20 years). Then I received a warning that she was doing things that she shouldn�t be doing. That she had spent the night with someone else. I was able to confirm this in a different manner. So I tried to ask her about the warning and all of sudden I couldn�t get a hold of her. This was late spring. I finally got a hold of her the next morning and asked her. At first she blew up asking who was I going to believe the person that gave me the warning, have no idea who that was, or her. Well I told her that I believed the person. I was driving at the time and told her I had to go because I didn�t want to get in an accident. She called me later that day and continued to deny it. So I told her how I had confirmed it with another source. She continued to deny so I said good bye and hung up. She finally admitted it. For about 5 weeks she refused to stop having contact with this person. Since she was in another city I couldn�t do anything other then ask her to stop. Of course I still can�t do anything to make her stop other then tell her if she doesn�t that we are done.
I�ve started going to a counselor and reading this web site. I understand I am not at fault for her making the decision to do what she did. I also understand that I haven�t been the husband I should be. It seems like we make progress and then something happens. She hasn�t had contact with him that I know of for the last two weeks. I can�t do exposure because it would have serve legal consequences if I do. I can�t explain, but it would.
We have two children and they both know. Not because of me, but because of her. They are really anger at her, but I think they would forgive her if she gave them a chance. Some days she does and others she doesn�t.


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Welcome to Marriage Builders. Sorry you find yourself here.



Originally Posted by surprisedguy
Ok I have to be careful because I think she is reading this web site.
My wife was put on a temporary project by her employee located in different cities. This was late in the fall of last year. For the first few months there were no problems. We talked everyday we could and everything was fine. Then she went to the final city.

You say this was a temporary project will she keep working out of town from time to time?

After about a month she started saying don't call unless you have something to say. Most of our calls were the silly nothings that married people talk about. She was under a lot of pressure so I just chalked it up to that.

Then she started with how she has been unhappy for our whole marriage (20 years).

Did she have specific complaints?

Then I received a warning that she was doing things that she shouldn�t be doing. That she had spent the night with someone else. I was able to confirm this in a different manner.

So I tried to ask her about the warning and all of sudden I couldn�t get a hold of her. This was late spring. I finally got a hold of her the next morning and asked her.

At first she blew up asking who was I going to believe the person that gave me the warning, have no idea who that was, or her. Well I told her that I believed the person. I was driving at the time and told her I had to go because I didn�t want to get in an accident. She called me later that day and continued to deny it.

So I told her how I had confirmed it with another source. She continued to deny so I said good bye and hung up.

She finally admitted it.

For about 5 weeks she refused to stop having contact with this person.

Was she still out of town working during this time?

Since she was in another city I couldn�t do anything other then ask her to stop. Of course I still can�t do anything to make her stop other then tell her if she doesn�t that we are done.

Was she back and forth from the other city to home or gone all the time?

I�ve started going to a counselor and reading this web site.

I understand I am not at fault for her making the decision to do what she did.
I also understand that I haven�t been the husband I should be.

It seems like we make progress and then something happens.

What is the progress? What happens to stop the progress?

She hasn�t had contact with him that I know of for the last two weeks.

Can you confirm this?

I can�t do exposure because it would have serve legal consequences if I do. I can�t explain, but it would.

Legal consequences for Who?


We have two children and they both know. Not because of me, but because of her.

Did they know before or after she admitted it to you? How old are the children?

They are really anger at her, but I think they would forgive her if she gave them a chance. Some days she does and others she doesn�t.



Keep reading and posting. The more information we know the more people will be able to help with your situation.

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The project will have her out of town for a few days a month.

At one point I lied to her and she has never let it go. I've tried to make up for it, but I guess I never really did. It was not an affair.

She was out of town for the first few months and then was able to come home some weekends.

We talk and agreed to try and fix things. We've talked about attending counseling weekends. She has agreed to see a counselor and has gone. She has been more open about what she is doing and who she is with. She is always reachable by cell or text. The few times I couldn�t get her immediately she called back shortly later with fully explanation of where she was.
I can�t fully confirm it. She is in the other city and it is too far to drive to check up on her. She is coming home soon and then at least I will know where she is most of the time.
The kids are teenagers. They found out shortly after I did. They are really angry and have been very supportive of me.

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SC Just wanted to add a thread that may really help with some basic information. If you have questions post them here and others will be along to try and answer.

Scotland, a poster here put this together in one nice neat little package.

Thread to help newly betrayed spouses

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This post is just below you on the threads and ongoing right now. It may do some good to read at least the first post so you get an idea of what happens if conditions in the M do not change that made the A possible.

http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/u...at&Number=2377054&gonew=1#UNREAD


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Originally Posted by surprisedguy
I can�t do exposure because it would have serve legal consequences if I do. I can�t explain, but it would.

So, another guy boinking your wife isn't severe?


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It would involve time spent in a federal pen.

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Originally Posted by surprisedguy
It would involve time spent in a federal pen.

are you saying your wife was having sex with a minor?

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No. The Like I said I think she may reading this site. When I say company I am speaking of a fed agency that has different rules then the rest of us. She did nothing that would be illegal in the normal day to day world.

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I've read all of the links and ordered serveral books from the book shop.

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Originally Posted by surprisedguy
No. The Like I said I think she may reading this site. When I say company I am speaking of a fed agency that has different rules then the rest of us. She did nothing that would be illegal in the normal day to day world.

What she is doing is immoral. Are you saying you could go to prison for exposing her immorality? I'm confused...


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Like I said there would be legal consquences.

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Unless you are the President or sleeping with a minor, I don't see how infidelity can result in prison time or have legal consequences. Unless she killed the guy and put him in a suitcase or something after.

If you are worried she is reading the site, change your screen name, start a new thread, and CLEAR YOUR HISTORY on the computer when you are done on here!

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NewPetals how do you clear the history on one's computer (I am not computer savvy!)


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Surprisedguy, I can completely understand the need to be private on here. Unfortunately, you aren't going to be able to get much help with a line every now and then. Have you thought about calling the coaching center? They can give you EXCELLENT advice and no one has to know


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