How can I install a GPS in my wife's car properly? The car is in both of our names, so access and the law aren't problems. I would like to put the GPS under the car and pick it up a day later.

Basically, I want to confirm that my WW is continuing her A with OM. If I find out, I will expose to the OM's family members.

The last time I exposed, the OM threatened me physically. I suspect he will do the same again. To use jujitsu on him, I plan to tape or record our conversation. Does anyone know if I a hand-held video camera with the OM's voice on it would impress the cops?

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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
Move out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

In most states, it's illegal to record someone's voice without his/her express consent, so I would not tape-record him without advising him of that amd getting his consent at the beginning of the recording. Check the laws in your state.

Video is different, though, especially in a public place. You can video someone in public or your home all you want, so long as there are no voices on the video.

Lady Clueless,

Thanks for your prompt reply. Good news: http://www.rcfp.org/taping/ my state (and 38 others) allows me to record a conversation without the consent of the other party.

Now about installing that GPS on the WW's car?

http://www.intouchmvc.com/codriver-obd-vehicle-tracking-device.html

This thing plugs into the OBD plugin on your car. Its small, always on (even when the car is off) and you subscribe to their service where their database records where the vehicle goes for about $20 a month.

Unless a person knows to check the OBD, they would never think to look for it. Very easy to install since you just plug it into the OBD.

Just make sure it is a real time gps.

Also some have gotten a cell with real time gps to hide in the car. Found to be cheaper then a gps service.

A digital voice activated recorder in the car catches them on the first try.

I bought this one. Its pricey but installs with a very strong magnet under the back bumper.

It works real time and is accessible from any internet connection.

I like mine despite the price.

There is a cheaper alternative for GPS here Spying 102

YAG and BT, can you guys please add your posts about GPS to that thread? Those look like great solutions!

Thanks everyone. I prefer the GPS tracker to the VAR because it seems to be easier to use. Also, it seems to be less expensive than the other options.

If YAG and BT could send their posts about GPS, I would appreciate it.

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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
Move out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

Adding my GPS solution.

I bought This one

GPS with 6 month battery

This one is pricey. $400 for the unit. Then $60 activation and $40 a month subscription.

It gets the job done though.

It has a strong magnet that allows covert installation on the auto. Most people put it along the back bumper. The battery is like a giant cell phone battery. It indeed lasts about 6 months.

Tracker reads out in real time. Gives updates about every 5 minutes. The location is trackable within about 20 feet. Sometimes you will get a whacked out ping. Especially if the car is still moving or inside a garage. Its easily close enough to figure out where the car is though.

It has a geofence function that allows you to fence off an area.If the car leaves the fence or crosses the line you can get up an email (or text) to alert you.

I'm buying a real-time GPS, probably at Radio Shack. Does anyone know how often the batteries must be changed?

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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
Move out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

Michael,

The best way to get incontrovertible "proof" is to HIRE A PI.

Yes, I know it's more expensive than a GPS or VAR, but it's definitive and legal (it puts a professional "buffer" between you and your cheating-spouse in terms of snooping).

My biggest regret with regard to my xWW's affair is not HIRING A PI. I urge you to do so even if it requires some financial sacrifice.

SDCW_man

Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, I am not in the financial position to hire a PI.

Anyone else know how often the batteries on a real-time GPS must be charged?

Well, the one I posted is $250 dollars, $20 a month sub to use their web based storage.

Its real time, you can set a boundary and it will send you a text if the unit leaves that boundary, and it doesnt use a battary, it gets power from your vehicles OBD outlet that it plugs into (so it stays on whether your car is on or off). Its 2in x 2in x 2in (roughly) so unless you knew to check the ODB outlet for something plugged into it, you'd never know it was there.

It real time tracks, but also stores all the movement for retrieval and review on demand at a later date, as part of the subscription. You just plug it in, and leave it, you can check the records at any time.

Adding it to the Spying 102 thread.

Also, on VAR's, VARs can be way cheaper than GPS. I bought my VAR for $78 @ Radio Shack, planted it the next day, left for a week and ABRA CADABRA - instant graphic audio evidence of the PA with both voice clearly recognizable.

I think what I learned though is that it depends on your goal.

If you are looking for "proof" such that should you seek a D, then you have an airtight case, then sure, hire a PI, GPS, VAR, everything, Nanny Cams, the works...

but,

If you are just trying to hush 50 experienced, veteran posters, and PROVE to them that their aint no PA and you are in fact NOT in denial, then thats a different goal.

Remember you dont need to prove to THEM that they are having a PA. They already know if they are.

You only have to prove to YOU.

So if you check cell records, see weird calls, and have unexplained absecnces, and thats enough proof for you, then dont worry about the other stuff.

Its about what YOU need.

Apparently I needed VAR audio to wake me up, so I am glad I did that.

BTinTrouble,

Your question is a good one: what's the point of getting proof? In my case, it's to prove to myself that my WW and the OM are continuing their A. If I find out that they are, I will expose. And when I expose and hear their denials, I want no real doubts in my own mind.

I would check my WW's cell phone records and recall her unexplained absences, except that she moved out eight months ago. I can't check squat.
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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
WW moved out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

I bought a Zoombak personal GPS locator. The main benefits are price and apparent ease of use. The GPS cost $79 at Radio Shack and $18 to activate. Only 2.5 inches, it should be placed behind the glove box or under the rear package shelf.

I wonder if anyone has this product. Was putting it in the car without being detected easy or difficult?

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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
WW moved out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

If its undeniable when you confront him again you will get the deer in the headlights result vice lie lie lie and more lies result.

having 0 doubt makes you stronger and removes all guilt from demanding EP. It also gives you legal footing to toss the bum out for an eventual PB.

The GPS tracker worked well. It showed me that she's still seeing him. She's over at his place right now in fact (1 a.m. EST) There is no doubt that they are having an A. (Technically, I need to check if the house is his, but the result will be predictable).

Now what to do about exposure. I've exposed the A to the people mentioned below -- my IL's, the OM's soon to be ex wife; 2 of WW's close friends, and one of OM's friends. That was in January and February. Now I plan to expose to the OM's mother, brother, and sister in-law. Can you recommend exposing to anyone else?

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Me: BH, 39 and jobless
Her: WW, 33
2 young DD's
EA exposed: Fall '08
WW moved out: Fall '09
D-day 01/22/10
Exposed to WW's and OM's boss, OM' soon to be ex wife, WW's parents, 2 of WW's close friends, and OM's friend
In Plan A at Dr. Bill Harley's recommendation since 05/10

Get a PI to document it. That way you will have the information LOCKED DOWN with no chance of her wiggling out. That is a hammer you can use against her because 3rd party documentation is gold in court. Also his STBXW can use that in her case as well. Maybe the thought of getting screwed over royally in court will help as well.

You could expose at her work again. That may help. What about your WW family? I didnt see them on the list.

Maybe someone else can answer this for me but is a second exposure going to be effective? Did it work at all the first time?

Since you dont have a job you could file on her and sue her for alimony. That may help.

BTW im just throwing out ideas here. They probably arent MB so ask around.

Yes EXPOSE TO EVERYONE!!

My husband exposed my 2nd EA on facebook, just post it so EVERYONE CAN SEE!!

Then get on there and find all of OM friends/family, start writing them a letter, I know you can find a really good letter on MB when you are exposing on FB or email.

GOOD LUCK!