I know...........

OW tried this tactic with me. Told me of a recorded phone call were I told her H what I would "like" to do to her. She threatened me. I told her to go ahead and use it.....it's a federal offense in Fl. to record phone calls without consent.........

Stupid OW's..........

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I think Mel has an extreme case of Renter's Remorse, and those tapes are what it sounds like.

Here's what I wonder about: He's been a sex symbol in Hollywood for nearly 30 years. Surely he knows exactly what kind of women are hanging around out there. And Ox has done this before - she also has a child, now 12, with Timothy Dalton. You gotta wonder how he could be that stupid. Being bipolar and off meds may well have something to do with it.

If Robin does take him back, I hope she sets the bar very, very high. And I hope that it was not just a case of her looking the other way all those years and *that's* why he was never abusive with her. I hope it wasn't just the case of a high-profile OC that finally made her file.

We'll see, I guess. Another cautionary tale for men who think it's all out there for free and that you can just sit on that fence forever. Even Mel Gibson finally got shoved off the fence, and none of it was free - it may well cost him his career.

I am not here to say anything on the reconciliation because i do not think that we ever get the whole truth from any celebrity media scandal, so IMHO we can not truthfully say whether or not Mrs Gibson should try to reconcile as we do not have the whole story.

I do think though that this was "staged" by the OW. Come on if he broke two of her teeth i would think her face would be so messed up that no amount of make-up would cover it up, i could be wrong but it sure makes me wonder.......

This web article talks about Mel Gibson and bi-polar disorder:

mel gibson bipolar

So you're saying that because he wasn't married to her, he could be physically abusive to her? I mean, she's a skank, no doubt, but he beat her up and spewed venom. Also, I'm not jewish, but if I was, I'd take offense to this. You're saying because his OW was jewish and she was a skank that he can denegrate all jews? The jew thing hamppened like a year ago with some cops, not with the skank. He's trouble, no doubt.
Let's not put him on a pedestal just yet. He's earned NOTHING.

Where did I say it was OK if he hit her? IF he hit her.



You're out of your mind w/ your other accusations.

He said some offensive crap about Jews to a JEWISH cop, who was trying to arrest Mel. When he got to the police station he said a sexist remark to a WOMAN cop, who was looking at him. Then he tried to pee on the floor.

IMO he wanted to be offending. That's what bullys do. That's why I said he was a bully. He reached for the ugliest words he could think of and swung w/ them. That's not exactly putting him on a pedestal.

That's interesting, Peace.

I didn't know he suffered from this disorder.

Here's a transcript of all five recorded calls. Even if she deleted some of the conversations, it is apparent that Gibson is seriously disturbed, whether from bipolar or what, he needs to get help. He is a man unglued.

Warning! Graphic language.
Mel Gibson transcripts

I thought I was the only crazy person on this planet who saw through a lot of this as typical OW agenda. I wondered if his xBW would step in to support him. I still think he has a terrible drinking problem and I would not R with him until he began a good, solid recovery from his addiction FIRST!

What I heard in those crazy recordings was a man that was undone by his addictions (I didn't know he was bi-polar) and his sin. He is so far away from God and I can hear the desperating in his voice. His is completely uncorked in them. I also heard some of what I heard in my own's H's voice when he was so, so desperate to end his A and find his way back.

Well, some of that looked like a few of the emails exchanged between H and OW near the end of the A. Probably sounded like a few of their phone calls as well......how very "by-the-wayward-script".......

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I agree... he was a raving lunatic. He still needs help. My H sounded pretty much the same there at the end minus the awful name calling... (yuck!) and he had to get help too.

I wonder if BW is reading all this and getting just a tiny bit of satisfaction that their "love affair" is crashing and burning.

The whole thing is sad.

Sure sounds like bliss doesn't it? Yep, soulmates they are....

Just read the transcripts...

Seems like a lot of the arguments are about who gave more love, money, appreciation. They're both nuts.

Mel seemed to be more worried about how many bj's he was getting or not getting.

I was trying to be polite

Guess they don't sound like soulmates now. Excuse me I need to go back and listen how many times he says BJ

Wow, he has lost it. What a mess. Everything screams lunatic in those transcripts. An angry child ranting and lashing out.

So what is missing from him that makes him so wacked? I suspect Robyn kept him under control for a long time because he leaned on her. I remember him commenting on his wife a long time ago, he said "She is amazing, I don't know how she does it, and those kids keep popping out of her"

Not the most wellrounded complimentary line for your wife I wouldn't think.

Well if he knows what is good for him he will let someone put a collar on him and shut up because he is out of control now if there is even some truth about these transcripts.

How the mighty have fallen. I have allways liked Mel as an actor, he seems to express emotion honestly in his roles, like he was really feeling it at the time.

Perhaps he was, because he has no emotional stability, and no reigns on himself it seems, he is like a child who plays make believe and gets away with everything, but what do I know?

I would hate becoming so famous that everybody let me get away with that crap. Its to bad, he was everybodys darling for years, and the powers that be made money on his fame, now that he is sick, they are still making money and the fame has screwed him up so much, and nobody wants to or can bring him back to earth.

I am so glad I am not famous and went the way of Mel, or Micheal Jackson, or OJ, or countless others who wear a mask and appear to be more than they are, just human

Was driving this morning and remembered what this reminded me of, Burt Reynolds.

Remember how the boyish rapscallion heartthrob, after Loni Anderson revealed his dark side, fell from grace?

I think the guy is nuts for sure, but his behavior with the OW makes perfect sense when you look at it in the context of buyers, renters, freeloaders. An affair is a renter or a freeloader relationship. They engage in sacrifice and people who do that KEEP SCORE. When the score is not kept even, they resort to abusive tactics to even the score. The vast majority of domestic assault, for example, happens in relationships that are or were shack ups.

So, a guy who "sacrificed" his family, etc, etc, for his adultery is going to feel he is owed MUCH, leading to much abuse when that score is not even.

That is what i see happening here. And I don't know if he was abusive in his marriage or not, but it would make sense that someone would be abusive in an affair [tenuous, renters relationship] and not in a marriage. [buyers relationship]