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Hi Mavic,
I really hear you when you say you are exhausted and that is one of the main reasons exposure can benefit you, its like enlisting an army to bombard the A, if you are surrounded by the right supportive people they will aid you in sinking the A ship and give you the streangth you need to get more energy, her brother and boss are a good start but dont forget EVERYONE ELSE, old friends, Friends, KIDS, parents, RELATIVES, HER RELATIVES, any kids over 18 she may have.
My fear of exposure was that everyone would tell me to leave him etc and sure they did that to start with but then I made it clear that I wanted my marriage and needed their help to RECOVER IT not end it and they soon got the message.
The most effective exposures I have seen on MB is the mass bombings, set a whole day when he is at work and blissfully unaware and start contacting EVERYONE, by email and calls take a sick day from your job if you have to. Dont foget social networking sites she may be a member of, you can send mass emails to all her friends list. (a tip here is to copy and paste in a document her friends list as she may block you once she realises what you are doing).
BW 36(Me) WS 38 Married: 2000 DD1November 22 2008 - DD2 October 2014 PA Duration September 08 - November 08 Second discovery- 6 online affairs 4 sexual one emotional. October 2014.kids: DS 17, DS 14, DS 12, DS 10 . Baby after divorce DS 18months
Divorced
Was misled into thinking we were in recovery for 6 years.
If you were shocked reading any of this, that this is the consequence of not following MB to the LETTER.
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mvic I bumped an exposure thread for you to read.
BW 36(Me) WS 38 Married: 2000 DD1November 22 2008 - DD2 October 2014 PA Duration September 08 - November 08 Second discovery- 6 online affairs 4 sexual one emotional. October 2014.kids: DS 17, DS 14, DS 12, DS 10 . Baby after divorce DS 18months
Divorced
Was misled into thinking we were in recovery for 6 years.
If you were shocked reading any of this, that this is the consequence of not following MB to the LETTER.
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I want to get this exposure done and over with. I'm so exhausted emotionally. But, you guys are right about how the affair is thriving in secrecy. I appreciate everyone's support in this forum. I wish I get to meet some of you in person. mavic, I am going to post the workplace exposure letter and the facebook letter below. Go on the OW's facebook account TONIGHT and copy the names of all her contacts into a WORD document. Send a canned email to all of her facebook friends but space them a minute apart so you don't get banned on facebook. Target facebook friends that are married and/or family members. They will be the most influential. You need to get her mother and dad in there and expose to them. Make up a list of family members and close friends and CALL everyone on the SAME DAY you do the others. For family members and friends calmly tell them about the affair and ask them to use their influence to persuade your H to end his affair. If anyone says "ok I won't tell anyone!" say nononono!!!! Affairs thrive on secrecy, please don't keep it a secret!! And most important ------------> ASK FOR THEIR ADVICE. That seems to get their buy in. Developed by Brits Brat, board member and corporate attorney. This letter should be sent to the Director of Human Resources and cc�d to the adulterers supervisors and a key VP. It is critical that this letter be sent to several people so no one person can give into the temptation to bury the issue.
To Whom It May Concern:
This letter is to bring a matter to your attention that may be a violation of your Company's Code of Conduct and/or other policies, procedures and business ethics.
WS and WS are involved in an extramarital affair that is taking place, primarily, in the workplace. Aside from the potential sexual harassment claims this situation presents, it also involves the inappropriate use of company resources and assets. WS and WS are using company time and company resources to further their affair. If you check the call histories on their office and cell phones along with their workstation computers, you will find the two of them are spending an inordinate amount of what should be productive work time to further their sexual relationship.
If you have any questions, please call me at xxx-xxxx. Otherwise, I will anticipate a response from you once you have investigated these concerns and taken appropriate corrective action.
Regards,
BS _________________________ FACEBOOK LETTER: Dear friend of Skankyhola,
It grieves me to write this letter but I believe all of her friends should be aware that Skanky is having an affair with my husband, Joe. We have been married for 5 years. They have been having this affair since October according to the evidence. I would be happy to provide the evidence to anyone who asks.
I would ask that you use your influence with Skanky to persuade her to leave my husband alone. You should also watch your own husbands around her because she is no friend to marriage.
I would appreciate it if someone would notify her parents and ask them to call me at xxx-www-xxxx. Thank you, BW
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Mavic, a couple of watch outs after you expose. Your H will get wind of it FAST if you do this right. All hell is gonna break loose. You can expect your WH to come to you in a rage and spout the most inane, laughable things you ever heard: "I was going to work on the marriage, but now I'm not!" [yea, he was really "working on it" by having an affair  ] "you have just pushed me closer to her!!" [don't tbink you can get any closer than an affair!  ] "fine, i will file for divorce!!!" "you have embarrassed OW!! Why be mean to her???" [gee, we thought acting like a skank ho was pretty dang embarrassing!] You get the idea. IT WILL BE VERY HARD NOT TO BUST OUT LAUGHING. If you feel a laugh coming on, politely excuse yourself and go laugh in the bathroom. It is a huge lovebuster to LAUGH at his stupid remarks, so don't do it!! Just politely say "I'm sorry you are upset, dear!"  Don't even try to reason with him and don't get baited into a fight. And most of all: DON'T LAUGH!! Can you keep yourself from bursting out laughing?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Update: I lost it today after work. Last night, I got hold of his cell phone and cracked the code. WS would tell her when to call while I'm not home. She encourages him to sneak out so they can talk. They would text and email all day long. I did not sleep a wink and had to work 12 hrs today. So, I broke down and cried and l told him that I know it's not over because I found a few strands if blonde hair inside the passenger seat. Again, he denied it and claim he loves me. I emailed this ow a month ago that her relAtionship with my h is creating a havoc on ours. Please understand that he calls, emails, texts and code words are creating a havoc on ours. Please stop this and just imagine yourself in my shoes. Goodluck to u and ur h. I bcc'd my h. It was good for a while so I thought it worked. She still continues... I told my h that I have eyes at their work place reporting to me lol(not true). I told him end it vetoer this blow up in ur place and lies everything. Is the A worth that? So, he locked himself in he bathroo and locked the door for an hour. I went crazy again as I know that he is texting her. Boy, the look in his eyes looks like murder.e ety opportunity he gets, he will contact her. I guess I just made a BIG withdrawal on my lb.
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mavic, I am so sorry for your despair. Do you think you can control your emotions enough to follow a plan? I want to help you but I don;t know if you can focus enough to follow a plan. I realize how hard this is.
Can you call your doctor tomorrow and get some anti-depressants?
Additionally, can you swing by the bookstore and pick up the book Surviving an Affair and read it quickly? This will help you understand some of the direction we aer giving you.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I guess I just made a BIG withdrawal on my lb. I think if you don't get out of this soon, it is going to get worse. What your husband is doing to you is the cruelest of abuse, mavic. That is why you are having such a hard time with this. Dr Harley, clinical psychologist and founder of Marriage Builders, recommends that women only stay in Plan A for 3 to 4 weeks and then SEPARATE from their spouse if he will not end contact. You have already dealt with your H's continued affair for 8-9 weeks. It is time to make plans for separation before he drives you nuts, my friend. What he is doing is dangerous to your mental health. When a WS refuses to leave the lover, there are no good options for the BS. At first, plan A is recommended because there is a slim hope (15%) that, with encouragement, a WS will make the decision to leave the lover. But 85% don't do that, even when plan A is implemented perfectly.
That leaves two other choices which are both bad. The first is to continue plan A indefinitely, trying to encourage the WS to leave the lover, and the second is to initiate plan B, which is to completely separate from the WS. The problem with a coninuation of plan A is that it usually leads to severe emotional symptoms, including years of post-traumatic stress disorder, even when the WS eventually returns. Many women that I've counseled actually have nervous breakdowns in their effort to draw their WS back to them. Instead of making the BS attractive to the WS, plan A actually makes these poor women so unattractive that it completely eliminates all hope of reconciliation. And 95% of all affairs eventually "die a natural death." If you do absolutely nothing, they usually end.
So I've recommended plan B rather early in the effort to separate the WS from his lover. The primary reason for abandoning plan A for plan B is protection. The stress experienced in plan A (trying to care for someone too long who is hurting you more deeply than you ever have, or ever will, experience) can leave you physically and emotionally damaged. So the question each person must ask themselves is, "how tough am I?"
My experience is that men are tougher mentally and physically than women. By that, I mean that women seem to start falling apart emotionally and physically after just a few months, or even a few weeks, of plan A. Men, on the other hand, seem to be able to keep it up for years before experiencing health problems.
If I don't know a person too well, I tend to lean to the safe side by recommending 3-4 weeks of plan A for women, and 6 months for men. But if a woman is no worse for wear after a few weeks, or a man is feeling okay after 6 months, there's no reason to end plan A at that point. As you can see, it's inexact, and depends on how the person is doing. A good support system (like the support people often receive on the Forum) can often keep a person in plan A much longer.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Melody,
I regret my outburst last night.I was in the verge of a breakdown. I have lost 20 bls and have been in 2 car accidents. The last one was 2 weeks ago. Car is totaled. So, on top of my H's affair, this happens. I am now even more anxious all the time. The day after the accident, I could not get out of bed. The next day, I asked someone to drive me to check on my H and found the 2 of them together. I did not confront them. I am seeing a psychiatrist now and on anti-depressant and sedative. I will pick up the book at lunch time. I am emotionally drained. It is so difficult to function at work. He now hides everything in his pocket, cell phone and car keys. Thanks for your advise and support.
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Melody,
I regret my outburst last night.I was in the verge of a breakdown. I have lost 20 bls and have been in 2 car accidents. The last one was 2 weeks ago. Car is totaled. So, on top of my H's affair, this happens. I am now even more anxious all the time. The day after the accident, I could not get out of bed. The next day, I asked someone to drive me to check on my H and found the 2 of them together. I did not confront them. I am seeing a psychiatrist now and on anti-depressant and sedative. I will pick up the book at lunch time. I am emotionally drained. It is so difficult to function at work. He now hides everything in his pocket, cell phone and car keys. Thanks for your advise and support. THIS is a perfect example of why we recommend PLAN B .... to salvage your sanity and your physical health.
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Melody,
I regret my outburst last night.I was in the verge of a breakdown. I have lost 20 bls and have been in 2 car accidents. The last one was 2 weeks ago. Car is totaled. So, on top of my H's affair, this happens. I am now even more anxious all the time. The day after the accident, I could not get out of bed. The next day, I asked someone to drive me to check on my H and found the 2 of them together. I did not confront them. I am seeing a psychiatrist now and on anti-depressant and sedative. I will pick up the book at lunch time. I am emotionally drained. It is so difficult to function at work. He now hides everything in his pocket, cell phone and car keys. Thanks for your advise and support. THIS is a perfect example of why we recommend PLAN B .... to salvage your sanity and your physical health. If you can't handle the situation any longer, then I suggest a plan B as well.
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Melody,
I regret my outburst last night.I was in the verge of a breakdown. I have lost 20 bls and have been in 2 car accidents. Mavic, my suggestion is that you postpone exposure and go into Plan B as soon as you can. I think you are too worn down to deal with exposure right now. It would be much better to get separated - cut off all contact with him - and THEN expose the affair. That way you don't have to deal with the fallout because you won't be in contact with him. Please think this over. If you stay around him much longer your mental and physical health is only going to get worse. And I am not suggesting that you leave, but that you ask him to move out ASAP. Please think it over and let me know. We can help you through this, Mavic.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I will do it this week. I really would like to send an email to the OW and bcc her brother? I would say that, I am dissapointed that I have to send u a second email. I pleaded with you to stop the phone calls, emails and texts but yet you continue. I know about the affair. Details about where they have been meeting... Do not deny the facts because I have evidence. I am trying to save my ten year relationship and you are wrecking it. The pain you are inflicting to the people that are involved is surreal. Please do your part in ending this affair. Again, imagine yourself in my shoes. Watcha guys think? Should I bother? I just want to give details about their rendevouz because only H WH and her would know.
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Leave the OW alone. Talking to her achieves NOTHING. She DOESN'T care about you. She, obviously, has no problem doing what she is doing. Talking to her AGAIN will only hurt YOU.
Don't tip her off to what information you have. Because then she can spin it. She can pre-empt you.
Go dark. Don't talk to your husband or the OW. Once Plan B is in place, send the workplace exposure, and send the OWs husband/family the exposure info.
Exposing to the Affair Partners is USELESS. They already know they're in an affair. Their decency (or lack thereof) hasn't stopped them yet, you can bet another confrontation wont either.
Me & DH: 28 Married 8/20/05 1DD, 9 mo. Just Lookin' and Learnin' HIYA!
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mavic, please listen to the advice you are getting. These folks know what they are talking about.
Your health and well-being is the priority now. Move to Plan B and then the vets that are helping you will walk you through the next steps.
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mavic i am going to chim in here as well. Mel, Pep and the rest really do know what they are talking about.
See i see me in your posts. I have been where you are with the outbursts and what not. Plan B is the best thing for you right now. You need to get some strength and trust me that will come with time and seperation of the situation.
No i think i can!
NO YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
As far as contacting OW, vibrissa is correct. She doesn't care what you have to say. Again been there done that don't waste your breath trust me. Deaf ears doesn't even begin to discribe it.
You CAN do this. Maybe asking how do i know... Because I HAD to do it. You have the strenght in there just dig a tiny bit deeper to get yourself to plan B. You can find that strength.
Truth can stand on it's own two feet....A lie needs support....FRM
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OK. I will not email her. I will call her brother and her boss and ask them to meet on the same day. That way, it won't give them a chance to ponder about the meeting. Should I meet with my H's boss and send that letter to the CEO?
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Should I postpone the exposure until I am in plan B? I just bought the book and will be reading it tonight.
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Forget about exposure..... Forget about plan A..... Write your plan B letter NOW and get him OUT! GO DARK DARK DARK Here is a sample of a plan B letter...you can change it but this is just sample I got off of NP thread. Dearest WH,
I am so sorry our marriage has come to this. I recognize my part in our relationship that created an environment where your affair with POSOW was possible.(the other way puts too much blame on OW)
I have learned better ways to resolve conflict between us. I want to create a new life for both of us that meets both our needs and creates a loving home for our children. We can not do that while you are still in contact with POSOW
Until then, I have chosen to avoid seeing you or talking to you.IM has agreed to be our intermediary, and she will help in making it easy for you to see your children, as we discussed. Our only contact should be in the case of emergency about the children.
Please understand my decision to separate from you this way. It is too painful for me to live with you any longer as long as you are also with her I ask that until you are ready to end your affair with POSOW and focus on our marriage and family, you leave our home.
The way back home is simple: end all contact; be completely transparent with me with your phone, emails, and time; be truly repentant for the damage you caused; and, commit to rebuilding our marriage. Before I will consider direct communication with you 1. You must WANT to work on our marriage 2. You must end the affair with WF 3. You will write a No Contact letter to WF and have it okayed by me and then I will send it. 4. You will leave WORPLACE (unless she has left first) 5. You will agree to follow a marriage counseling plan of my choosing.(MB OF COURSE) 6. You will take a sexually transmitted disease test and I will see the results."
I look forward to the day when we can begin to rebuild our marriage and begin the rest of our lives together as a family. I want nothing more than to be your partner through life, and your best friend and confidante in all matters - you have always been mine. We can have a stronger marriage built on trust, love, honesty, and teamwork.
I loved you from the day I met you and I continue to love you right up to this moment. I hope for and look forward to a time when we can begin a new marriage with each other.
Love,
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I agree. Your mental health and state is of the upmost importance. You cannot try to save this marriage at the expense of your own well being.
Get him out today if possible. Change the locks, get an IM. Give him the letter - use SR's template.
You need to take care of yourself, hon.
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