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Just joined on the recommendation of a friend. Found out a month ago my WH had an affair 2 1/2 years ago. Struggling with acceptance and forgiveness. The funny thing is I don't feel angry at him. I don't want to yell at him, or hate him. I feel strangely calm but yet I also feel like something has changed. I think the hardest part is being affectionate on any level with him right now. He is saying all the right things and I do believe that he is willing to do whatever it takes to make this right. I want to move forward too. Don't know what concrete steps to take.
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Hi Elliebean, welcome to Marriage Builders. sorry you are here. I would suggest getting the book Surviving an Affair and following the program in there. Dr Harley describes what it will take to recover here: The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide. I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail. The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy. This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted. An analysis of the betrayed spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them. After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance. here
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Ellie, how did you find out?
Has he given you all the information about the affair?
Has he ended all contact with the OW?
If married, has her husband been informed of the affair too?
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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I found out because he told me. He has had no contact with her in 2 1/2 years. He did not ever intend to tell me but God has had him on a very specific path this summer and made it painful for him to the point that it was necessary. He has told me everything that I feel comfortable with knowing and has been an open book. I do not know if the OW's husband was told. I have not asked. He is very very serious about recovery and has done some amazing self reflection and is very self aware at this point. I am not as far along in that process.
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elliebean,
Welcome, I just wanted to say that you just found out about the affair and you will need time to process the information.....it will lead you to some questions, ask what you want to know about....... It does look like your husband has done the work to figure out what was going on with him and how he could have gotten to that place while he was married to you.....this is a great start...... I guess we all have to make a choice to trust and believe in someone special in our lives, I think he made a mistake and is now owning up to that and is willing to make things right between the two of you...... You are one of the lucky ones.......talk it through, if you feel hurt, disappointed, tell him.... Then the two of you should put together a plan so he is never in any kind of position again to be to friendly with another person of the opposite sex. Fill each others needs, he needs to prove with his actions that your emotions are safe with him, that you will never have to doubt about his whereabouts or who he talks to...... Forgiveness is a powerful thing, set yourself free.
BW 56 WH 57 Married 25 years, live together for 2, dated 2 years before that..... DS 23, DS 25 D-Day Nov 23/09 NC Mar 1/10 Working on Recovery Grateful for finding Marriage Builders
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I do not know if the OW's husband was told. I have not asked. He is very very serious about recovery and has done some amazing self reflection and is very self aware at this point. I am not as far along in that process. Ellie, part of repentance is making amends to your victims. It sounds like he is attempting to do that with you. But there is another victim here and that is the OW's husband. He should be told of the affair. This does 2 things: it increases the odds that the affair does not resume and it allows the OW's husband to protect himself from your H and his wife. It gives him a chance to recover his marriage too. But, your H will not recover from this affair as long as his crime remains hidden from his other victim. Repentence means to "turn away from" and that has not happened as long as he continues to deceive the OW's husband. Since it would not be helpful for your husband to contact the OWH directly because of the risk of contact with the OW, it is suggested by Dr Harley that you, the spouse, informs the OW's husband. I would also suggest exposing the affair to your close family members. The more people that know, the more people to hold your husband accountable. Adultery is the worst thing, short of murder, that one can inflict on his spouse. So getting the support of your family members helps ensure it won't happen again. "What about exposure of an affair that took place years earlier and is now ended but recently revealed? I feel that the children, close relatives, close friends, and the lover�s spouse should be informed. Granted, it�s embarrassing to admit an affair, but publicly admitting failure is usually the first step toward redemption.
As you already know, I�m a strong advocate of honesty and openness in marriage. I call it transparency�letting your spouse know everything about you, especially your faults. But should that level of openness carry into the public arena? I believe that it should in cases of extreme irresponsibility, and that certainly includes infidelity. When you have done something very hurtful to someone else, others -- especially those who care for you the most -- should know about it. Such exposure helps prevent a recurrence of the offense. Your closest friends and relatives will be keeping an eye on you�holding you accountable." here It will be critical for you and your husband to identify the conditions that allowed him to have an affair and change them. Does he have opposite sex friendships? Travel overnight? Whatever it was, the conditions need to change to prevent this from happening again. It is apparent that your husband has poor boundaries and that needs to change.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Thanks for the replies. MelodyLane, why would telling the OW's husband be essential? He has not had any contact with her for over 2 1/2 years? It's hard for me to imagine turning this guy's world upside down after all this time. I guess I understand the concept, but how does that help us? I have told my sister and her husband, telling my parents would be very hard, I would hate for this to change the way they feel about him. Although incredibly hurt, part of me still wants to protect him.
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The A started in an online forum, which led to contact outside of that and ended with them meeting in real life. He does not travel over night or anything like that at this point. He has been very careful to tell me where/when he is since he told me. Do you think that a marriage can be entirely mended without counseling? Some have told me that counseling would be essential for us, but my H is unemployed right now and financially that just is not possible. Can we do it ourselves?
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Thanks for the replies. MelodyLane, why would telling the OW's husband be essential? He has not had any contact with her for over 2 1/2 years? It's hard for me to imagine turning this guy's world upside down after all this time. I guess I understand the concept, but how does that help us? I have told my sister and her husband, telling my parents would be very hard, I would hate for this to change the way they feel about him. Although incredibly hurt, part of me still wants to protect him. Well, there is a difference between protecting him and enabling him. Hiding this from family and most especially his victim, the OW's husband does not protect him. Your parents should feel differently about him, he has hurt you. Your H can explain himself to them too. The OWH will have to know about the affair too. It would be cruel and immoral not to tell him. This is information about his life that has been wrongly withheld from him. Your H had an affair with his wife and he can't very well protect himself from your husband and his wife if he doesnt know. He has a right to know. And sure, he will be hurt, but it will be because of the affair, not because you told him. Telling your H's other victim will increase the odds the affair does not resume with people watching from both ends. It is also essential to your H's recovery. In order to recover one has to repent. Repentence is contingent upon being honest with your victims.
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Do you think that a marriage can be entirely mended without counseling? Some have told me that counseling would be essential for us, but my H is unemployed right now and financially that just is not possible. Can we do it ourselves? I think you can do a better job yourself than you would with most counselors. Marriage Counselors have an 84% failure rate and don't have the slightest idea how to save marriages. They have a higher personal divorce rate than the general population! I would go to the library and check out the book Lovebusters and read it together. Do the lessons in there. Do the same wiht Surviving an Affair. You can buy the workbook that goes with them on this website for $11. It is called Five Steps to Romantic Love. You can also send an email to Dr Harley to read on his radio show he will send you a free book of your choice. But yes, you can do this on your own. The fastest, most effective way to recover your marriage and fall in love is to spend 20+ hours per week of undivided attention meeting the top 4 intimate needs of affection, sexual fulfillment, conversation and recreational companionship. Without children and with out TV. <----that will do more to restore the romance in your marriaeg than anything else.
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