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rant: people who say losing a pet is just like losing a child, especially from childless people who have lost an elderly pet. If you have an 18yo dog and an 18yo child, and they both die on the same day, really is it the SAME??


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Originally Posted by Fireproof
Rants are ok, folks, but restarting a debate from a locked thread is not. Please keep this in mind when you post your rants.

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Your welcome Fireproof, and I thank you for moderating any possible moving from one locked thread to another. I was not trying to do that. Just wanted to rant generically addressing how threads get locked.

I respect the authority of the moderators who need to keep this forum about MB and the application of the principles. Its those principles that will rebuild relationships and marraiges after all.

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Constantprocess, I appreciate that you kept your rant very generic. You are just fine. Thank you. smile

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Wow, when I saw that Fireproof had the last post, I thought this thread had been locked. Then, I would have had a rant about no rant thread. I rant often; so, thanks for continuing to give me the opportunity to rant.

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Originally Posted by Fireproof
Rants are ok, folks, but restarting a debate from a locked thread is not. Please keep this in mind when you post your rants.

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I've neer been edited before!
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Sorry Fireproof!

My rant is that all posters should stick to addressing the issues and questions asked by the posters, and should not try to interject their own, often irrelevant, opinions.

Is that worded better? laugh


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Todays rant, AP's who become engaged while still married to OTHER people. How is that even possible people? How can you get engaged to someone when you are married? Do you not understand what engagement means?

My WSIL and her OM have been "together" for 5 years. They have 2 OC. They have been "engaged" for 4 years. They are BOTH still legally married to OTHER PEOPLE. Oh, but the OMW was "crazy and jealous" and BBIL was, "Controlling and abusive." It is so typical. Oh, and get this, they have BOTH "cheated" on the other A LOT. And, if asked they state they have never been happier but then in another breath they complain about eachother. And the only kids that they like are their OC. She doesn't like his other 2 children(from 2 different mothers). He complains about her COM. They are BOTH disgusting wayturds.

What prompted this rant? Well, I saw a newsreel about how Kelsey Grammer got engaged(to what is OBVIOUSLY his OW) and announced it on David Letterman. He isn't even divorced from his wife. I stopped watching David Letterman when I found out about HIS As.


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Originally Posted by armymama
Wow, when I saw that Fireproof had the last post, I thought this thread had been locked. Then, I would have had a rant about no rant thread. I rant often; so, thanks for continuing to give me the opportunity to rant.

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Weak.
Very weak.

I rant against weak rants.
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Yeah and Kelsey Grammers wife that he cheated on and was married to was the OW in his other marriage...

Heres my rant....OW that become the WS new spouse complaining about how they have been through thick and thin with their WS and cant believe that they are leaving them for another OW.....WAHHHHHH, call the WAHHHHmbulance!!!!!!

But he would never do it to you, would he?!!!!??? Well guess what HE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Stilly, I didn't know that. Well, serves him right that this current wife FOW is going to take him to the cleaners.

I saw an interview and she said, "What about the kids?" Wow, just WOW.

Oh and on the BBIL and WSIL front, they are WEIRD. BIL's GF called me and said, "BIL and SIL are out sledding with 'the kids.'" Yep. BIL, SIL, COM and 2 OC ALL out TOGETHER, in the same car, to go out sledding. WEIRD.


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It is amazing that all this weirdness doesnt seem to phase anybody anymore, as it should.....sounds like WSIL is cake eating galore....Thank goodness for MB, I would prolly be doing things almost as stupid thinking it would keep me from losing WH....not knowing that I had already completely lost him.


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WSIL has ALWAYS been like this and BBIL even played on the same baseball team as OM. He doesn't like him, but he always does things for the family. He fixed their leaking sink, their car, etc. He always says it is for his daughter but COME ON. It is really really weird. Sadly, it seems it is becoming more of the "norm" now though. I am SUPER glad that I found MB. If WH had left in February, he was going to come here and watch our children and "we" would go shopping as a family. He even told me we would see if we could start dating each other again. SHUDDER. Thanx once again MB and DrH. OOPS that wasn't really a RANT now was it? grin


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Originally Posted by stillhere8126
Yeah and Kelsey Grammers wife that he cheated on and was married to was the OW in his other marriage...

Heres my rant....OW that become the WS new spouse complaining about how they have been through thick and thin with their WS and cant believe that they are leaving them for another OW.....WAHHHHHH, call the WAHHHHmbulance!!!!!!

But he would never do it to you, would he?!!!!??? Well guess what HE DID!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you sure, Stilly-Girl? [Hi, btw! Miss ya! smile]

According to Wikipedia, Kelsey Grammer has been married 3 times - the first marriage, to Doreen Alderman, lasted from 1982-1990 - the second marriage, to Leigh-Anne Csuhany, in 1992, lasted one year, and then he met current BW, Camille Donatacci, in 1996, and married her in August of 1997...So I dunno??? dontknow

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Sounds like a bunch of people passing around thier spouses Scotty. Yeah, Marriage doesn't mean anything to them. Its just a piece of paper I bet they say.

Live like thiers no tommorrow, I want my share, if nobody catchs me I'll be OK, if they can get away with it why not me.....

A Bunch of children.

Rant for today..ignorant people.

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I watch Real Housewives of Hollywood and Kelsey's current wife is on the show. To me she appeared really devastated, loss of weight, depression, worried about the children. She said she supported him for 13 years through a bunch of crap, including his addictions. She said she thought when she got married that she was going to be married for the rest of her life. She's scared.

Then on the previews for the season finale next week, she finds out there is another woman. (Remember these shows were pre-recorded.) Guess they waited for the show to catch up before they did the reveal about Kelsey.

I always liked him as an actor, now? I have lost a lot of respect for him.

I was really surprised to hear all this because all along I wondered about their marriage. Separate vacations, separate friends, etc. I kinda thought SHE might be a wayward. No clue it was Kelsey. Just goes to show you never know what's going on behind closed doors.

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I read in a tabloid the she was the OW....but now that I look at it, he was only engaged to be married at the time he started seeing Camille...not married...


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I don't doubt she is worried about the kiddos(I realize that I wrote something that might be misunderstood). I think I was just saying that was the part they were stressing. Also, apparently she met OW and she says she likes her. puke

It isn't better for the kids for you to be "friends" with WS and OP. It is sickening that this is becoming a new part of our culture.


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I know, right? On the show they (she and Kelsey) pretended that everything was A-OK in front of their friends (except she kept getting her jabs in about marriage). She seems to be a very passive person so I can see her saying that she likes OW but when there's no one around I wonder if that's how she really feels.

She's way too concerned about public image IMO.

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Ok, after my last weak rant, how about this one?

The movie, "The Dilemma", has been advertised as a comedy about infidelity. On the radio show, Dr Harley said something along the lines of "this would be like making a comedy about child pornography". Normally, I like Ron Howard's movies, but why on earth would he make a comedy about infidelity?

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Yea, I think I am going to skip that movie even though I normally like movies that Kevin James and Vince Vaughn are in.

"The Dilemma"???? Every time I see the trailer, I yell at the TV, "What Dilemma? YOU TELL YOU TELL. There is NO dilemma." Good thing I usually don't have any company over and it's winter so my windows are closed because someone may put me in the looney bin. grin


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Originally Posted by Scotland
Also, apparently she met OW and she says she likes her. puke

On "watch what happens live" (yes I am a closet Real Houswives fan) she stated she met her and that she was nice. She also said it was awkward.


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