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Why does this have to be so hard? I found out my WH was having an affair with someone at work about 6 weeks ago and I feel like I have been in chaos ever since. I don't know what happend to us, how this happened to us. This kind of stuff was suppose to happen to other people, not me. I want to close my eyes and forget all of the pain. I want my life back. WH wants to fix us. We are going to counseling and we have started going to church as a family. He went to the dr to get evaluated for depression and ADHD, everything that I have asked he is doing. The changes are astonishing. Are they real? We have been together since we were 16 years old. More than half of my life. But how do you forgive such a betrayal? I want my life back, but I don't know how to get there. Help please!


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I am so sorry you are going through this. It hurts horribly. You say you don't know what happened to "us." Please remember that YOU are not responsible for his choice to cheat. He is 100% responsible for that choice. And speaking as someone with bipolar who had an A....emotional and mental issues are challenging, but they do NOT excuse cheating, so be sure his therapist isn't going down that road. He needs to own his choices, for you and for himself.

I don't know how much you have read on the site, but there are some amazing resources. I would also recommend Surviving An Affair.

Does your H still have any type of contact with the OW? He should not....at all. Does anyone else know about the A? Having other people who can support your M is crucial.

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Piper, I am so sorry you are here. Recovery is possible, though, if you and your H follow certain steps. The first of which is ending all contact with the OW. If he still works with her, your marriage won't recover. Have one of them left the job?

Is she married? And if so, has her husband been informed of the affair? What about your family and children? Have they all been informed?

This is what it will take to save your marriage:

Originally Posted by Dr Willard Harley, founder of Marriage Builders in Requirements for Recovery
The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide.

I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail.

The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy.

This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that
will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted.

An analysis of the wayward spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them.

After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here
as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance.
here


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I see I already gave you this advice. Did your H end his job with the OW?


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Well, H did end everything with OW except they still work together. He is trying to switch to another team/schedule, but it will take time. She (OW) hates him right now, which is fine by me. She is young and not married. He told her he didn't want anything to do with her and their only conversations at work would be about work and involve other people. He has told me about every encounter with her at work. There are a few people who know about the A...by close family and his. They have been very supportive, but it still hurts. I think he is doing the right things, but its hard to know. From what I can tell he wants to make our marriage work and is trying to do that. He did get evaluated for ADHD this week, and of course, he does have it (which I already knew, he just refused to get tested). He is seeing his md this week to talk about treatment. Hopefully things will start to get easier soon.


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piper 65,

Your husband has to look for another job, that is a must, as long as they are in contact there is a chance the affair will continue, it will just go more under ground.
Right now I wouldn't believe everything your husband tells you, has he given you complete access to all his communication devices? phone, comp, passwords.
Complete transparency is a must...........spending quality time together, complete honesty......filling each other's need so that both of you are happy in the marriage.
Set your boundaries in place ................
Take care of yourself as well, don't be a doormat for any man.......


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Originally Posted by piper65
Well, H did end everything with OW except they still work together. He is trying to switch to another team/schedule, but it will take time. She (OW) hates him right now, which is fine by me. She is young and not married. He told her he didn't want anything to do with her and their only conversations at work would be about work and involve other people. He has told me about every encounter with her at work.

Just understand that this means the affair is still on. Do you think if an alcoholic changes the name of his drinks to "business drinks" that he can ever sober up? And lets say the alcoholic is "honest" with his spouse every time he takes a drink, do you think that negates the EFFECTS of the drinks?

So no, your husband did not "end everything with the OW" if he still sees her at work everyday. Your marriage will not recover until ALL contact ends. The affair will continue until all contact ends.


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Originally Posted by piper65
Well, H did end everything with OW except they still work together. He is trying to switch to another team/schedule, but it will take time. She (OW) hates him right now, which is fine by me. She is young and not married. He told her he didn't want anything to do with her and their only conversations at work would be about work and involve other people. He has told me about every encounter with her at work. There are a few people who know about the A...by close family and his. They have been very supportive, but it still hurts. I think he is doing the right things, but its hard to know. From what I can tell he wants to make our marriage work and is trying to do that. He did get evaluated for ADHD this week, and of course, he does have it (which I already knew, he just refused to get tested). He is seeing his md this week to talk about treatment. Hopefully things will start to get easier soon.
Please tell me that you didn't buy a word of your WH's tripe. Piper, as long as your WH and the OW work together you can count on the A to continue. They will see each other every day and their feelings and memories of their 'good times' together will be triggered. Your WH may have the highest of resolve, and that will crumble when he sees her.

My FWH was in the same boat. He would swear, every morning just before d-day, that "Today will be the day I stop going to her cubicle. I'm really going to end it today. I mean it!" He would make it for about an hour, then down the hall he would rush to her.

They are addicts, piper. They will look you in the eye and swear on everything that is holy that they have nothing to do with each other. Addicts are liars. I'll bet your WH is the one who told you that the OW hates him now, right? It's what they do, piper. Waywards lie.

No, I'm sorry, piper, but at this rate things aren't going to get better soon. Nooo


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