In other words..Posters who don't have a clue..

Posters who can't buy a vowel.

Posters who come on an MB site to give non MB advice without even reading the rules....

Not a new rant. It has been on the thread several times. Here goes again.

Rant on foggy waywards who are so self-centered and "sensitive" that they perceive they are being bashed when they are being told the truth.

AM

Ditto. And my rant is about the coddlers who come behind them and portray them as poor little victims, ie: misplaced "compassion"...

Yes, but .......

But their situation is DIFFERENT! They have SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES! They aren't the AVERAGE WAYWARD!

Oh, silly me. I misunderstood. I should be more understanding.

AM

I hate being a betrayed spouse with all my heart and soul....but.....so help me....
I think I would hate being a wayward even more.

(at least being a betrayed gives me clarity that waywards just do not have)

"Speshul snowflakes" is the phrase that comes to mind. Such pretty little helpless snowflakes!

I had this EXACT thought after reading Ms. Foggy Foggerson's thread earlier.

She was very into typecasting her advisors as bitter because 'you are the hurt ones'

I would rather be hurt than be disgusting.

I was flabbergasted about her take on the fact that it isnt cheating if you tell your spouse about it. The poor guy must have got his heart ripped out on to the kitchen floor, and she's just stepped on it, patted herself on the back for being 'honest' and gone out to rut in the pig pen.

And this is eight years later - she still doenst get that she made vows with this man.

I think she takes the Fog Award, if we have one.

We should have that emotiocon

"In the fog"

Rant:

WW has affair, BH exposes it big time, WW is humiliated and then tells BH that she'll commit to recovery ONLY if he (basically) apologizes for exposure.

And then the BH actually considers it a valid question and is allowing a wayward's ranting to derail the whole freaking purpose of exposure.

UGHHH!!!!!!

I just want to knock some sense into him to take back the control that he had only a few hours ago. He's (hopefully) *this* close to getting this marriage turned in the right direction and is letting fear take over.

It is hard to watch. She has his number off by heart

Yes, it is hard to watch.

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I find it extremely insulting to people who are trying their darndest to pull off the best dern Plan B, and read someone suggest a poster have "some" contact with the WS and it is still called "Plan B." Or a poster who says that there are in Plan B, but are really NOT.

I know there is sometimes when someone can't do plan B, the way DrH describes it. They have advice from a lawyer perhaps, that tells them that they MUST have contact with the WS. It is their right NOT to follow Plan B, but to call it that, it's just not fair to those of us who are IN Plan B, or who are trying to get others to enter it.

This is NOT against anyone in particular, it is just that I have had enough.

I know I, and some other Plan Bers, have felt guilty about looking at an email, or a FB page, or out a window, and then to read that someone else has CONTINUED contact with the WS, and sometimes are even encouraged to "modify" Plan B. ARGHHHHHHH.

It's like suggesting that a recovering couple not spend 20+hours together, or to not POJA everything. We wouldn't do it. So why are so many posters quick to call what they are doing a Plan B when it is most definitely NOT. And shame on the people who tell the posters that they can "modify" Plan B. Uh-uh, no way.

These posters can still follow MB, albeit watered down, but they need to expect the watered down version of recovery as well, either MR, or PR.

Nice rant Scotland.

I find that ALARMING because they are getting bad advice on this board. And I hope you say something about it. People don't come here to hear about our personal philosophies, but about Marriage Builders. Plan B means NO contact, period. Otherwise it is not Plan B. And in all the years I have been here I have only known of TWO situations where a judge demanded direct contact, usually as a result of a wuss lawyer. And even in those cases, we rigged it so the BS was not in contact at all, but the email account was monitored by an IM. [without the knowledge of the WS]

There is no such thing as Plan B light. You either are or you AREN'T.