I pointed out where your wild statement is inaccurate.

If I jump on you, it is because I disagree with your point of view.
I have never said you are as bad as or WORSE than an adulterer.

Know how I know?
Because that is not in my belief system.

I do not have the authority to TELL YOU to leave.
I might suggest to you that your posting here is counterproductive to people wanting to learn/implement MB.

But, I do not have the power to kick you off.
Even if I did, I would not. You're not some monster.

But, I will argue with you when you are touting your wrong perception that MBers "often" say outrageous comments such as calling YOU worse than an adulterer.

I think you are purposely disruptive.
That annoys me.

It so happens ... that I mostly agree with your premise.


No one "deserves" a second change.
But we all sure appreciate a second chance when we screw up. Don't we?
I've asked to be forgiven, and have been grateful when I was.

The offended party may deem that they decide to offer forgiveness, and/or a second chance.

But "deserve"? Not so much.

The way you communicate, using exaggeration to make your point, causes a lot of confusion and needless disagreement.

"I do not have the authority to TELL YOU to leave.
I might suggest to you that your posting here is counterproductive to people wanting to learn/implement MB.

But, I do not have the power to kick you off.
Even if I did, I would not. You're not some monster.

But, I will argue with you when you are touting your wrong perception that MBers "often" say outrageous comments such as calling YOU worse than an adulterer.

I think you are purposely disruptive.
That annoys me."

And we used to get along with each other so well.

Maybe you do not have the authority to make me leave. Not so sure about that actually. You certainly can tell me to though. You have clearly suggested I do so more than once.

No, you can�t make me do anything. You cannot even make me feel anything. Neither can I make you do or feel anything. You may do or feel things becasue of me, but I cannot control these things in you. Nor, by your same logic, which I agree with completely, can I make anyone else do anything or feel anything. What each of us does or feels is ours alone to own.

You just wrote I am not some monster. But you did twice call me evil about eighteen months ago. You still did not make me feel anything, like bad, though.

I am not purposely disruptive. I think you are projecting onto, and assuming for, others. Basically, it sounds like you just do not like the way I post. Uh, checking. No, I still don�t feel bad.

Can�t you put me on ignore or something? OK, so for you I offer to take out the word often. Replace it with have at times? I have indeed been called as bad as and worse than an adulterer here. More than once. So have some others. I launched a spider to search for instances but it seems the most recent blatant instance was before the last big crash. But I do remember it. When I get the time I will launch with additional key words.

Sometimes a divorce is simply not feasible, forgiveness in place or not. The world is not black and white. Or maybe it is, actually. Anyway, we can discuss case studies later if you wish.

Bottom line, with a few exceptions which I have explained several times (is several OK or do I need to enumerate for you the times explicitly to avoid hyperbole) adulterers are very good liars and very good actors. I do not believe what they do or say, even long after they stop adulterating.

It is unfortunate this set-to happened just as I am getting ready to go to Europe on business. I do not have much free time. But I will do my best. I did supply a description of more than five examples, though, as you asked.

Oh, a separate query on a separate topic: Are you no longer Catholic? You used to post about your priest. And how you took RCIA during your H�s adultery at his request (two or so years ago to me that post) which also annoyed you. But recently you posted (#2559491) about your minister and his wife. Just curious. Maybe I read it wrong. But I don�t feel disrupted or bad, or annoyed.

Have a safe trip.