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The letter: Dear A,
I've often sat here and wondered why you rescinded our marriage vows when I thought everything was going great. I wanted to blame you for everything; I was working on myself, and you just quit. I sat here, thinking that I was the victim here, and while I realized that I made our marriage difficult at times, I never placed the blame where it truly lied - squarely on my shoulders.
Over the near two years we've been separated, all I would think about is how I was going to win you back. I was doing everything for my own personal gain, believing that anything I could show you would be instant gratification, on my part as well as yours. I was working on myself, but for all the wrong reasons.
Now, I'm growing up and realizing that life isn't just about me. I have three wonderful children with you, but I don't even know who they are. To be honest, in those final months we were together, I couldn't even say I knew who you were. I was blinded by selfishness, and I let my pride get in the way of our marriage, believing I was too good for jobs that would barely get us by. I failed to uphold my vows with support, financially, and most importantly, emotionally.
I've worked on my anger issues. I know that was a major concern with you. Given my past of abuse towards my family, you had every right to worry I might flip out and turn on you one day. I can say all I want that it would never happen, but your trust in me was broken at the end, long before our last big fight. I can't expect you to believe me when all I've done is hurt you anyway. Regardless, I still am working on those issues, not because I'm trying to prove to you that I've changed, but because I want to set a good example for our children. It's not okay for me to scream and yell and throw a tantrum when I don't get my way, and it's not okay for the children to mimic that. Getting me out of the house in my unstable situation was really the best thing you could have done, despite whether I would have physically hurt you or not.
With my anger issues worked on, I'm now working on my sense of commitment. I wasn't always committed to the marriage, or the relationship, evidenced by the emotional affair I had with B. I was committed to one thing only, and that was what I wanted. That's changed now, and I find myself focusing more on the world around me, realizing that it doesn't revolve around my wants and needs - rather, I influence the wants and needs of the people around me. No one wants a selfish jerk in their lives, and I think that's why I have had so few friends. It's amazing that I've kept J as my friend for 25 years, and even he and I don't talk as much anymore.
My work ethics are changing, too. I've learned that having a job is having a job, whether it pays $6 an hour or $10 an hour. I wanted to blame you for not keeping me up-to-date with the children, but honestly, why should you? I'm the one failing as a father, not providing any means of support, even if it's just $20 a week. I wanted to hate you for it, saying you had no right to keep the children away from me like that, but how could I justify that if I'm not upholding my end of the bargain? Therefore, I'm making a commitment to myself to ensure anything extra that isn't for necessary bills is sent to you. This means that I'm doing without video games and without cable TV. I know those were issues in our marriage as well, my immaturity to the family when I wanted to play my games or watch TV instead of taking care of the family.
You sacrificed a lot in our marriage. I didn't sacrifice anything. Now I'm finding out what true sacrifice really means. Things that are unneeded, like video games, are not a sacrifice. They aren't needed, period. A sacrifice is losing something you need. You sacrificed your emotional needs to try to keep this marriage together, and you sacrificed financial needs to please me. I don't have anything to sacrifice right now, but in a true marriage, there is no sacrifice.
I have more changes to make, but for the sake of our children, I'm making them. I'm hoping you'll open up to the possibility of a friendship in the future, provided I can show you these changes are consistent and stable. There is nothing I'd like more than to be married to you again, but I realize that any hope for that, period, is still a long way off. At least with a friendship, our children can grow up knowing that their parents were able to work out their issues and work together to raise them.
I'm not asking you to accept this letter as me "finally getting it right." I know I've said that to you one too many times over different situations. I am asking, however, that you remain open-minded as I work my way back to the man you fell in love with, and the man I should have always been. I'm also not asking for your trust, but I will ask that you let me earn it back. I want nothing from you, for all you've ever done was give, and it's time that I give back.
My love for you still burns on, and it fuels me in my changes. I'm sorry for the misery I put you through, this time, from the bottom of my heart.
Always, J, about to come alive The last line, "about to come alive" is from a song that she wished I had practiced and sang to her... it's Train's "I'm About to Come Alive" and I find it extremely fitting for this situation. Anyway, that's the novel of a letter I wrote, so would definitely love any feedback!
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Take out the 1st two sentences and you're good. You might add something about you've found some help to learn about being a man of integrity.
Now if you send this it should be with absolutely NO expectations. You're planting a seed. My guess is she won't believe a word of it until you have some time and demonstrative proof. It's just words at this point. Are you sending some child support too?
Keep posting. Keep reading and keep learning.
Widowed 11/10/12 after 35 years of marriage ********************* “In a sense now, I am homeless. For the home, the place of refuge, solitude, love-where my husband lived-no longer exists.” Joyce Carolyn Oates, A Widow's Story
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Regarding Facebook: I've given my friends and family a week's notice that I'm deactivating Facebook. Told them they can contact me through email or through my phone, but I'm removing Facebook as step one in my self-change.
MaritalBliss: Thanks for poking those holes in. I truly am serious about this change, and it seems I'm still dependent upon things that I shouldn't be.
The only reason for the phone number hesitation is because I don't have the money to make the change yet. Besides, I would think I'd have to be caught up on my bill before they would even consider it changed.
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The letter: Dear A,
I've often sat here and wondered why you rescinded our marriage vows when I thought everything was going great. I wanted to blame you for everything; I was working on myself, and you just quit. I sat here, thinking that I was the victim here, and while I realized that I made our marriage difficult at times, I never placed the blame where it truly lied - squarely on my shoulders.
Over the near two years we've been separated, all I would think about is how I was going to win you back. I was doing everything for my own personal gain, believing that anything I could show you would be instant gratification, on my part as well as yours. I was working on myself, but for all the wrong reasons.
Now, I'm growing up and realizing that life isn't just about me. I have three wonderful children with you, but I don't even know who they are. To be honest, in those final months we were together, I couldn't even say I knew who you were. I was blinded by selfishness, and I let my pride get in the way of our marriage, believing I was too good for jobs that would barely get us by. I failed in my responsibility as their father to provide support, financially, and most importantly, emotionally.
I've worked on my anger issues. I know that was a major concern with you. Given my past of abuse towards my family, you had every right to worry I might flip out and turn on you one day. I can say all I want that it would never happen, but your trust in me was broken at the end, long before our last big fight. I can't expect you to believe me when all I've done is hurt you anyway. Regardless, I still am working on those issues, not because I'm trying to prove to you that I've changed, but because I want to set a good example for our children. It's not okay for me to scream and yell and throw a tantrum when I don't get my way, and it's not okay for the children to mimic that. Getting me out of the house in my unstable situation was really the best thing you could have done, despite whether I would have physically hurt you or not. (So vague. I would want to know that you have VOWED to yourself to STOP the specific behaviors that frightened or upset her)
With my anger issues worked on, I'm now working on my sense of commitment. I wasn't always committed to the marriage, or the relationship, evidenced by the emotional affair I had with B. I was committed to one thing only, and that was what I wanted. That's changed now, and I find myself focusing more on the world around me, realizing that it doesn't revolve around my wants and needs - rather, I influence the wants and needs of the people around me. No one wants a selfish jerk in their lives, and I think that's why I have had so few friends. It's amazing that I've kept J as my friend for 25 years, and even he and I don't talk as much anymore.
My work ethics are changing, too. I've learned that having a job is having a job, whether it pays $6 an hour or $10 an hour. I wanted to blame you for not keeping me up-to-date with the children, but honestly, why should you? I'm the one failing as a father, not providing any means of support, even if it's just $20 a week. I wanted to hate you for it, saying you had no right to keep the children away from me like that, but how could I justify that if I'm not upholding my end of the bargain? Therefore, I'm making a commitment to myself to ensure anything extra that isn't for necessary bills is sent to you. This means that I'm doing without video games and without cable TV. I know those were issues in our marriage as well, my immaturity to the family when I wanted to play my games or watch TV instead of taking care of the family. (This paragraph will mean NOTHING to her if there is not real money included in the envelope)
You sacrificed a lot in our marriage. I didn't sacrifice anything. I am sorry. Now I'm finding out what true sacrifice really means. Things that are unneeded, like video games, are not a sacrifice. They aren't needed, period. A sacrifice is losing something you need. You sacrificed your emotional needs to try to keep this marriage together, and you sacrificed financial needs to please me. I don't have anything to sacrifice right now, but in a true marriage, there is no sacrifice.
I have more changes to make, but for the sake of our children, I'm making them. I'm hoping you'll open up to the possibility of a friendship in the future, provided I can show you these changes are consistent and stable. There is nothing I'd like more than to be married to you again, but I realize that any hope for that, period, is still a long way off. At least with a friendship, our children can grow up knowing that their parents were able to work out their issues and work together to raise them.
I'm not asking you to accept this letter as me "finally getting it right." I know I've said that to you one too many times over different situations. I am asking, however, that you remain open-minded as I work my way back to the man you fell in love with, and the man I should have always been. I'm also not asking for your trust, but I will ask that you let me earn it back. I want nothing from you, for all you've ever done was give, and it's time that I give back. father I know I can be.
My love for you still burns on, and it fuels me in my changes. I'm sorry for the misery I put you through, this time, from the bottom of my heart.
Always, J, about to come alive The last line, "about to come alive" is from a song that she wished I had practiced and sang to her... it's Train's "I'm About to Come Alive" and I find it extremely fitting for this situation. Anyway, that's the novel of a letter I wrote, so would definitely love any feedback!
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There are jobs in AR. I don't know what part of the state she is in, but being an hour away from your children would be MUCH better than 2500.
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The only reason for the phone number hesitation is because I don't have the money to make the change yet. Have you ever changed your cell phone number before? Cell phone carriers will allow the first change for no charge.
D-Day 2-10-2009 Fully Recovered and Better Than Ever! Thank you Marriage Builders!
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I wasn't aware of that. I would imagine my account would have to be current, though, and not $170 behind. I'll ask them about changing my number.
I spoke with the Arkansas Visitation and Exchange Center today (where I need to go to visit my children). Got the information I need, and really need to pass it on to my ex-wife, but she hasn't responded to any emails from me in almost two months. I'm not sure how I should go about handling that.
I'm well on my way to getting set up to go back to Arkansas. I'm contacting my old job to find out if they're hiring. Despite that I was released from the job, they did admire my work, and I did leave in pretty good standing. I also have a place there, courtesy of my sister. It's farther away than I really want to be from my children, but it's a LOT closer than where I am now.
Once I get to Arkansas, I have a side plan that I'm writing in my head, but I don't want to execute it if it's going to cause problems. Here's what I have, and I'd appreciate feedback on this as well.
I have some things that still are with the ex-wife. My plan was to go to the house for the purpose of retrieving those things. While there, I intend to ask the XMIL and my ex's stepfather if I may speak to them. In my conversation with them, I intend to apologize for the way I disrespected them. My XMIL has helped my ex-wife and I quite a bit, and has loaned my ex-wife plenty of money for various things. While I'm sure my XMIL will tell me to give my ex-wife any money that I intend on paying back, I'm going to ask if she will accept a payment plan from me.
As for the stepfather, I intend to apologize to him, and thank him for being a role model for my children. He truly has been there for them when I should have been there. He deserves to be respected, and I intend on showing him that respect.
Lastly, I'm going to see if I can even manage to speak to my ex-wife. I'm going to apologize in person for the way I behaved, including harassing her through emails and texts when we first got separated, begging her to stay with me. I'm going to ask her if there's anything specific she needs regarding the children, and I'm going to make good on that offer.
I'm not going to ask any of them to let me see the children; I'll wait for them to offer me that privilege. I just want to start down the proper path and take responsibility for my actions. I'm sure they think I blame them for all that's happened to me.
Is my plan severely flawed? Should I change anything, maybe do it in a group setting instead of individually? Again, thanks! I'm really glad I wrote this topic.
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I agree with itistoughlove: 1) Show your ex-wife you will not have any friendships with women of the opposite sex.
2) Show your ex-wife you will be open and transparent.
3) Read up on Plan A and start to wow your ex-wife. Start with Family committment, converstation, and affection.
4) Absolutely do not lovebust her.
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Anyone have any suggestions to my plan?
As a side note, I have a job waiting for me back in Arkansas. Spoke with the Human Resources at the job I used to work at, and he said he would love to hire me back on.
I've also have stopped all means of contact with the OW, aside from the phone number change. I do have that number blocked, however, and she doesn't have my new email address, either. Facebook is getting removed tomorrow, though some of my friends don't understand why.
Again, thank you guys, for your help.
@SmilingWoman - Thanks for the edits you made to the letter. You did take a lot out, but I understand why. Throughout the letter, I talked about wanting her to see me as a different person, that I was changing for her. Truth is, I'm changing for myself, and for the children. I just hope the ultimate change is a change of heart from her.
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Anyone have any suggestions to my plan?
As a side note, I have a job waiting for me back in Arkansas. Spoke with the Human Resources at the job I used to work at, and he said he would love to hire me back on.
I've also have stopped all means of contact with the OW, aside from the phone number change. I do have that number blocked, however, and she doesn't have my new email address, either. Facebook is getting removed tomorrow, though some of my friends don't understand why.
Again, thank you guys, for your help.
@SmilingWoman - Thanks for the edits you made to the letter. You did take a lot out, but I understand why. Throughout the letter, I talked about wanting her to see me as a different person, that I was changing for her. Truth is, I'm changing for myself, and for the children. I just hope the ultimate change is a change of heart from her. That will remain to be seen. Regardless of what SHE feels for YOU, YOU are the father of those 3 kids and you need to man up and be there for them financially and physically and emotionally. A job in AR is a good start. Next work on establishing some time with them so you can get your full father rights back.
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You may think A is your "true love", but how have you shown it to her?
You don't meet her needs for Financial Support. You don't meet her needs for Family Support.
I think you do most of the Love Busters: Selfish Demands Disrespectful Judgments Angry Outbursts Independent Behavior Dishonesty
She sees a man who " started out by yelling at her, desperate to keep our marriage alive. I kicked over laundry baskets, threw things around. In an act of desperation, I grabbed a folding knife and held it to my stomach, threatening to plunge it in if she wanted a divorce so badly". Who would want to be married to that guy?
If you REALLY even a possibility of getting her back,then you need to meet her Emotional Needs and stop the Love Busters. Go to everyone of your visitations. Show her that you can be a good dad. If your old habits came back, then you would be skipping them because it is "too far" or you are "too busy finding work" or someother selfish reason.
I would think that being reliable should be your first step, whether or not you are going to get back with her. Just to be your kids' Dad you need to show up on time, every time, and not respond to anything she says that might be somewhat nasty (if she even does that.)
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