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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;
is completely honest and open with her;
provides financial support for her and;
is committed to the moral and educational development of their children.


A husband tends to find his wife irresistible when she
learns to join him in a sexual relationship they both find satisfying and enjoyable;
becomes his favorite recreational companion;
maintains overall appearance in a way that he finds physically attractive;
manages household responsibilities and;
understands and appreciates him more than anyone else.

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I tend to fall back on this; I'm a dumb guy, I've never discovered anything in my life, so I memorize the things that smart people say.

So, I look at this and I consider that the source has decades of clinical data-gathering and the ability to track trends, and agree.

Of course, each of those points for each would be the typical Emotional Needs for a man and a woman.

Points could be substituted for an individual's most important Emotional Needs if they don't follow the gender-typical model.

Super-simplification would be as follows; A [spouse] finds their [spouse] irresistible when he/she consistently meets their emotional needs in the way they enjoy the most.


TL;DR version; I agree.


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*flexes to the side, flexes to the other side* .. then stands in front and *flexes both sides at once*

See .. irresistible!

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Originally Posted by MrNiceGuy
*flexes to the side, flexes to the other side* .. then stands in front and *flexes both sides at once*

See .. irresistible!

:P

Hey, that works for me. Or so Prisca tells me. Apparently all the stuff we've been doing in the gym, and the ten pounds I've lost, are paying off. smile

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I think a different word should be used instead of 'irresistible'. It is correct by the dictionary definition of irresistible, but that's not what most people think. Most people think of a strong sexual desire. Although it's correct for me to say "I find my daughter irresistible", most people would look at me funny.

To say someone will be irresistible if they do these things, most people will take that to mean sexually irresistible. That may or may not happen. Many people are in loving, emotionally satisfying relationships but they don't feel sexual desire for the other person.

I know the word 'soulmate' is frowned upon here, but I think that's more of what those statements mean. A spouse is more likely to feel their partner is their soulmate when those conditions are met.




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Originally Posted by Vity
To say someone will be irresistible if they do these things, most people will take that to mean sexually irresistible. That may or may not happen. Many people are in loving, emotionally satisfying relationships but they don't feel sexual desire for the other person.

Irresistible is the correct word when used in the context of a ROMANTIC relationship. If a person does not feel sexual desire for the other person, that means something is wrong with the marriage. Its important to remember we are talking about passionate, romantic marriages. THAT is the standard of success in Marriage Builders.

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I think a different word should be used instead of 'irresistible'. It is correct by the dictionary definition of irresistible, but that's not what most people think. Most people think of a strong sexual desire. Although it's correct for me to say "I find my daughter irresistible", most people would look at me funny.

Exactly. That is because a romantic marriage is different than the relationship one has with a child. We are talking about the former, not the latter.


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I guess it depends on who the audience is for that. In the general public, irresistible means sexually desirable, not emotional connection. Most people wouldn't even think of the emotional component.

The dictionary definition for irresistible generally is not about sex. It is something like "impossible to resist; an overpowering appeal". The definition is about desire, but not necessarily sexual. But in society, it means a strong sexual desire. That's where I'm saying the confusion comes from.

A cologne which which says "Wear this and she'll find you irresistible." is implying that she will want to have sex with you, not that she will have a strong emotional connection.

A woman in a new relationship may say she finds her partner irresistible (implying sexually) even though he may not meet any of those conditions. In that context, she's implying that she strongly desires the person sexually and thinks of sex often.

While it may be technically correct to use that word for the MB concepts, it can cause confusion for people reading it. I think it would be better to use a different word which didn't have that confusion.

I think the titles would be clearer to all audiences if they were more like:

"A wife will have the strongest emotional connection and sexual desire for her husband when he"

The reason I posted is because I was confused. I read it as "sexually irresistible" and it didn't seem the list was really addressing that. Then I looked up the definition of irresistible and really understood what he was meant. So if I was confused by what he meant, I imagine others might be as well. So although he's using the word correctly, the lay person reading it may think he's talking about something else.




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Originally Posted by Pepperband
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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;

And sends me naughty texts all day.. flirt And takes me out for romantic dates...


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Originally Posted by Pepperband
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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;

And sends me naughty texts all day.. flirt And takes me out for romantic dates...

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Originally Posted by Vity
I guess it depends on who the audience is for that. In the general public, irresistible means sexually desirable, not emotional connection. Most people wouldn't even think of the emotional component.

It is understood that we are talking about marriages, though. The context is ROMANCE, which would emcompass the sexual as well as the emotional. It is all part of the same piece in a MARRIAGE. Just think of a couple who is dating/married and is passionately in love. They find each other "irresisible," both emotionally and sexually.

I didn't find it confusing at all.


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Originally Posted by Vity
"A wife will have the strongest emotional connection and sexual desire for her husband when he"

The reason I posted is because I was confused. I read it as "sexually irresistible" and it didn't seem the list was really addressing that.

It was addressed in the very first sentences. In the very first lines of each gender, it describes what it takes to be sexually irresistible to each other:

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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest

Affection and conversion.

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A husband tends to find his wife irresistible when she
learns to join him in a sexual relationship
they both find satisfying and enjoyable;
becomes his favorite recreational companion;
maintains overall appearance in a way that he finds physically attractive;

Sexual fulfillment, recreational companionship and physical attraction...

These are the needs that create sexual desire and emotional connection. These are the top 4 intimate emotional needs that create the intimacy that leads to sexual desire.


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Originally Posted by HoldHerHand
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Originally Posted by Pepperband
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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;

And sends me naughty texts all day.. flirt And takes me out for romantic dates...

faint

Naughtiness is as naughtiness does!! grin


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The definition for irresistible says nothing about sex. So on the face of it, this says nothing about whether or not the wife will sexually desire her husband:

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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;
is completely honest and open with her;
provides financial support for her and;
is committed to the moral and educational development of their children.

And in reading it, those things seem to be more about having a deep emotional connection. There's nothing in there about sex. The list for the husband does mention sex, but not the wife's. I could see a husband doing all those things but the wife not necessarily sexually desiring her husband. So I may infer it has something to do with sexual desire, but I would be jumping to conclusions. It's not clear if he means it has anything to do with sex.

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Originally Posted by Vity
There's nothing in there about sex. The list for the husband does mention sex, but not the wife's. I could see a husband doing all those things but the wife not necessarily sexually desiring her husband. So I may infer it has something to do with sexual desire, but I would be jumping to conclusions. It's not clear if he means it has anything to do with sex.

Yes, it is right here:

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Vity, let me ask you a question. What is the purpose of meeting emotional needs? What is the GOAL in your understanding?


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A wife tends to find her husband irresistible when he
learns to create an environment of affection that clearly and repeatedly expresses his love for her;
sets aside time every day just to talk to her with undivided attention and interest;
is completely honest and open with her;
provides financial support for her and;
is committed to the moral and educational development of their children.


A husband tends to find his wife irresistible when she
learns to join him in a sexual relationship they both find satisfying and enjoyable;
becomes his favorite recreational companion;
maintains overall appearance in a way that he finds physically attractive;
manages household responsibilities and;
understands and appreciates him more than anyone else.

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What are your thoughts?

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