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Where are you in this?

I didn't see full NUCLEAR Exposure to all of the parents in the karate studio happen.

Your wife is still in an affair, and is blatantly lying to you.

redflag redflag You SIR are being GASLIGHTED and she is basically handing you your man parts on the OM's silver Platter.

When you EXPOSE THIS AFFAIR WIDE AND FAR then you can talk about where you are at.

SHE IS GOING FURTHER UNDERGROUND AND UNTIL YOU BRING THE LIGHT IN ON HER SMOKING HER CRACK (OM), YOU WILL LIKELY BE HEADING FOR DIVORCE BY CHRISTMAS.

OM IS DIVORCED AND HE IS NO IDIOT. HE HAS HIS HANDS ALL OVER YOUR WIFE, AND YOU ARE ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN BY NOT EXPOSING.


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OM W divorced him because he wanted to be a fulltime instructor and was failing financially at it. She wanted him to get a steady job to contribute to the family's income and he refused.
Did OMW tell you that?


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Green belt,

You have a really dangerous OM on your hands here. I feel that way because everything you write points to his being an extreme narcissist, who feels no remorse about destroying other peoples lives. I don't think this guy will call off the chase.

I can picture this guy having an office with plenty of oversized trophies,pictures of himself, talking about how many members he has and how many new studios he is going to open.

If everyone here is wrong we will be glad, but this walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

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Get on facebook, email, and/or snail mail tonight and get THEIR SORDID AFFAIR out in the open for all to see.

Make sure the information contains the reference to him hitting on your underage daughter.

I CAN 100% REASSURE YOU HE WILL DROP YOUR WIFE IN A HEARTBEAT.

THIS OM IS CONCERNED ABOUT ONE THING ONLY "$$$$$$$". WHEN YOU EFF AROUND WITH ANOTHER MAN'S WIFE YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MONEY ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE THE BOSS.

EXPOSE THIS AND HE WILL BE OUT OF YOUR LIFE FOREVER!!!

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The OM in your situation is very much like the OM in my situation. They are such losers that they need to tear you down to make themselves feel better about themselves. The POSOM in my situation did the same thing. The only difference was we had a horse farm, my ex was a horse trainer, OM was a horse person, and the only ability I had around horses was my ability to write checks for them.

There MO is get close to you. They will find your weaknesses in your wife's eyes and exploit them to the hilt to the point where their reality takes over. In my case, I spent four years building fences, mucking stalls, basically using every free moment in my life to build up our horse farm. OM comes along, does a better job handling horses, mucking stalls, etc. he points it out to exWW. ExWW starts to believe that I am an idiot and am useless. He tells exWW that I am lazy and have been dragging her down. never mind the fact that I worked full time in a job that paid for everything.

Bottom line, the OM in your situation is showing sociopathic and narcissistic tendancies to tear you down and seduce your wife.


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I imagine this guy being like the bad karate teacher in karate kid. You know that guy. The crazy guy who yelled at the kids and had no mercy.

When are you going to wake up Green? When are you going to turn that green into a BLACK BELT and open up whoopazz on this dojo dummy?

Huh?

Here is one hint. Women love men they can RESPECT. Not guys they can run all over. Men who are stand up guys, who stand up for their marriages and kids and are not wussies.

You allowing this to continue is unbelievable.

The FIRST thing you should do is expose this narcissistic jerk for what he is!!! A CHEATER, an ADULTERER, and possibly a PEDOPHILE. This guy needs to be in no way at all any sort of instructor.

Yes, he is getting a divorce, because HE PROBABLY IS CHEATING ON HIS WIFE WITH YOURS. And he has designs on getting your house, getting alone with your daughter, getting your money, getting your wife. He covets what you have and he sounds like a totally evil guy.

You have the POWER to end this. You can end this if you begin exposure. You have to be the stand up guy!

Seriously, even if your ww wanted to end this affair, she might feel extreme pressure from this very dominant and vile om, so she NEEDS YOU TO STAND UP FOR HER RIGHT NOW. She needs you to DO THE RIGHT THING and SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE AND FAMILY.

Please please wake up greenbelt.

Affairs die in the light of day. Like a vampire does on True Blood ok? Like the wicked witch of the west does when water is tossed on her. It melts right away.

This guy DOESN'T WANT EXPOSURE. he doesn't want it because it will be the ONE THING that stands between him getting all your money and your wife (and more) so he can rebuilt his dreem of a school where he can continue to assault and hurt more women. More kids.

This guy is scum!

What are you scared of? What are you scared of? I say Green, you SHOULD be scared IF YOU DO NOT ACT SOON.

What would James Bond do? I'll tell you. He would always look his best around his ww. He would not say that much, but maybe engage her in coversation about herself (women love that..I should know, I'm one). He should look her in the eye and give her a look that would melt her heart. But not ever beg or plead. Nah, James never does that.

He would go about his covert operation to kill off the bad guy in a calculated manner, knowing that he has the world to save or the world to lose. Do you get that? We told you how to kill off this affair.

he's manly, he's in charge of himself and the world around him and he does NOT TAKE CRAP from some posom!

It is with exposure. James would take out this affair quickly with one kill shot of exposure, or a few precisely aimed shots perfectly targeted to get the information out to the perfect targets (his wife, family, friends, and students at the school and your wife's family and friends and fellow students at the school). James would then smirk and walk away cooly after taking out the bad guy.


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For the record, the OM has not hit on my daughter...he has asked that she return to his class and she has refused....nothing inappropriate has occured between OM and her and I want to make that clear. I don't like the guy but for sure DD has not been hit on by him.

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He has behaved oddly though, didn't your kids say they didn't want to return?

Why on earth would he press for her to return to his classes? That i find quite odd. If you quit a class, you quit it. I took dance lessons for 19 yrs from 3 different instructors. When my parents wanted me to change teachers, it was easy to switch. No manipulations. We would just change studios.

Are you going to stand up to this man and expose him for who and what he is? Maybe he's not a pedophile, but he is behaving way inappropriately for an instructor and is HAVING AND AFFAIR with your wife.

Oh and my odds are on that your ww was NOT at dinner either when she went missing for a few hours. My bets are on she was with him. And you can figure out the rest.


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Totally agree.
Very suspicious behaviour here.

Plan A - Expose - Snoop (VAR in car?).

Come on. What good does it do for you to be renovating the house, if he is going to live in it?
Next time, ask someone to follow her, or do it yourself rightaway. Have a GPS on her car and on her cell phone. That way you don't have to wonder if by any chance she did go to dinner after she lied to you about the black belt examination.

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Originally Posted by Greenbelt
For the record, the OM has not hit on my daughter...he has asked that she return to his class and she has refused....nothing inappropriate has occured between OM and her and I want to make that clear. I don't like the guy but for sure DD has not been hit on by him.

I am a mother of two girls. When a young girl says to you she doesn't want to be around a man, she knows something is not right. We, girls and women, have intuition like a sixth sense. Your daughter can feel something creepy about this guy. Creepiness displays itself in the form of wrongness. His behavior is wrong and your daughter knows WHY!!

Your quote concerns me because your daughter is telling you something is terribly wrong with him.

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PIB spent a lot of time composing this WARNING! note to you:

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I imagine this guy being like the bad karate teacher in karate kid. You know that guy. The crazy guy who yelled at the kids and had no mercy.

When are you going to wake up Green? When are you going to turn that green into a BLACK BELT and open up whoopazz on this dojo dummy?

Huh?

Here is one hint. Women love men they can RESPECT. Not guys they can run all over. Men who are stand up guys, who stand up for their marriages and kids and are not wussies.

You allowing this to continue is unbelievable.

The FIRST thing you should do is expose this narcissistic jerk for what he is!!! A CHEATER, an ADULTERER, and possibly a PEDOPHILE. This guy needs to be in no way at all any sort of instructor.

Yes, he is getting a divorce, because HE PROBABLY IS CHEATING ON HIS WIFE WITH YOURS. And he has designs on getting your house, getting alone with your daughter, getting your money, getting your wife. He covets what you have and he sounds like a totally evil guy.

You have the POWER to end this. You can end this if you begin exposure. You have to be the stand up guy!

Seriously, even if your ww wanted to end this affair, she might feel extreme pressure from this very dominant and vile om, so she NEEDS YOU TO STAND UP FOR HER RIGHT NOW. She needs you to DO THE RIGHT THING and SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE AND FAMILY.

Please please wake up greenbelt.

Affairs die in the light of day. Like a vampire does on True Blood ok? Like the wicked witch of the west does when water is tossed on her. It melts right away.

This guy DOESN'T WANT EXPOSURE. he doesn't want it because it will be the ONE THING that stands between him getting all your money and your wife (and more) so he can rebuilt his dreem of a school where he can continue to assault and hurt more women. More kids.

This guy is scum!

What are you scared of? What are you scared of? I say Green, you SHOULD be scared IF YOU DO NOT ACT SOON.

What would James Bond do? I'll tell you. He would always look his best around his ww. He would not say that much, but maybe engage her in coversation about herself (women love that..I should know, I'm one). He should look her in the eye and give her a look that would melt her heart. But not ever beg or plead. Nah, James never does that.

He would go about his covert operation to kill off the bad guy in a calculated manner, knowing that he has the world to save or the world to lose. Do you get that? We told you how to kill off this affair.

he's manly, he's in charge of himself and the world around him and he does NOT TAKE CRAP from some posom!

It is with exposure. James would take out this affair quickly with one kill shot of exposure, or a few precisely aimed shots perfectly targeted to get the information out to the perfect targets (his wife, family, friends, and students at the school and your wife's family and friends and fellow students at the school). James would then smirk and walk away cooly after taking out the bad guy.

And your answer is: the OM has not hit on my daughter

Sooooo, can we now understand that you agree with the rest of PIB's post, that you realize that "hoping", "wishing", and "trusting" will inevitably lead to "separating", "co-parenting", and "divorcing"?

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Originally Posted by happyheart
Totally agree.
Very suspicious behaviour here.

Plan A - Expose - Snoop (VAR in car?).

Come on. What good does it do for you to be renovating the house, if he is going to live in it?
Next time, ask someone to follow her, or do it yourself rightaway. Have a GPS on her car and on her cell phone. That way you don't have to wonder if by any chance she did go to dinner after she lied to you about the black belt examination.

Take care,

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There is, in kung fu, a saying which is similar to meaning in Christianity...

Kung fu is a gem which you don't parade around or put on display because there are those which will spitefully use it for their own ends.

Christianity says don't cast your pearls before the swine

Marraige builders in essence says that your spouse is a gem that needs to be jealously guarded and protected.

How does this all relate? it means you do your best to protect your spouse, even when they aren't protecting themselves (and you).

You don't allow them to destroy your marriage when it is in your power to prevent it.

We jealously guard and protect the things we hold dear and are of value to us.

How valuable is your wife and marriage? Enough that you are willing to really buckle down and fight? Lots of folks here have given good solid advice about exposure and this OM.

He won't go away unless you expose...

You have done a few things that concern me.

1) You didn't go to the tournament/belt test. You should have been there supporting her, putting deposits in the love bank and blocking OM. Not letting him have free access to her

2) You have not exposed this guy to everyone. Narcissism withers under the light of exposure and embarrassment in most cases. You need to make it unpleasant for this man to pursue your wife. If you don't, *you* will continue to be the third wheel.

3) It's like watching someone walk down the street with a few hundred dollar bills waving them around in a dangerous part of town and wondering why they are slowly being taken from him by someone... This man is stealing your marriage, time, finances, wife, her affection. Eventually he will have your kids. and you are just standing by waving the hundreds (your family) in front of him.


So.. what is the plan? Will you expose him to the world? Will you protect what is yours? Do you love your wife and the kids enough to fight for them and protect them?

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