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We are in the process of scheduling a polygraph. I have had experience with a typical polygraph and was never impressed by the variables and inconsistant results based off the mental and physical state of the person being tested.
In looking for a nearby polygraph business in our area we came across the voice polygraph that can be done over the phone. According to my research I have found what I can describe as netrual findings on both voice and phisical poly. Both have postive results in research and both have negotive findings. I did read on a sight that of a guy who is certified in both and described them both as very accurate, but he makes money on both, so I cannot believe that either.
Any experience here on either, especially someone who has taken the voice poly and how accurate do you feel it was?
Me BH previous user name SEM WW Senninpaswife previous user name Keep Smiling Married 16 years - HS sweethearts 2 kids, Boy 15 years, Girl 13 years
WW's Affair #1,2,3,4 @ 1 year into marriage All ONS type PAs DDay #1 09/11/01 False recovery for 10 years
WW's Affair #5 07/11 - 10/11 with my best friend EA&PA DDay #2 11/27/11
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Senninpa,
The fact that your WW goes through with the poly is worth it by itself, it shows a desire to prove her re-dedication.
If the poly reveals, or something is revealed during the car ride there, then that is bonus material.
Do a search on this site for keywords like polygraph, questions, etc.
God Bless Gamma
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if you are going to do one why not just go to the place. i dont know the accuracy of the phone poly- but i would have a hard time believing its accuracy.
part of the process is driving there together, sweating it out, waiting the 3 hours and driving back relieved.
just my opinion.
Me 44- yes ugggh WH 47 together 26 years M 19 serial cheater big time DD1 2.24.11 NC letter sent 3/7/11 NC letter to OW2 april final truths 5/8-- all of them poly confirmed 5/18 working the plan
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Most of the success stories on here based on poly's have been done in person. Read Mirrormirror's thread. He got the best person for the job, his wife passed with flying colours and the recovery is going very well.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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Hello Senn,
Have been following your story off and on for last week or so, but didn't feel I had much to say or suggest At any rate you are in good hands with the people here who have posted to you.
This post of yours has me quite astonished however. It seemed like just a short while ago you were insistent on the poylygraph. Now it looks like you are getting cold feet. I fully realize that pretty much any technique has supporters and detractors. I am not at all familiar with polygraphs, but I do believe that errors or inconsistencies related to this technique are due more to inexperienced or less-than-competent operators, but that the technique itself is very valid. Have you researched stats and reviews from the APA (American Polygraph Association)?
Then, your most recent development - talking with this guy (former friend) and his W for an hour?? This in the face of trying to impose your list of EP's on your wife? My God man, no wonder she is angry and dissolusioned with you. I have worked for corporations and other organizations for my adult life, and I am sure there were other ways to handle this exchange of business or work information other than talking directly with the guy who betrayed your friendhsip to get at your W. If I were you I'd be concerned about reinforcing her impression that you are all bark and very little bite, and no threat to her inclination for affairs. Why? It's because you seem to have an inclination to ignore the solid MB advice you have been given, and to resort back to Plan Senn, which hasn't seemed to have worked for several years now. You may not have another chance to really save your married and rescue your WW, and achieve a truely devoted marriage. I don't say these things as someone who has gone thru what most of the others here have, but as someone who has been married to the same woman for 40+ years and they are treasured years.
Tom
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As for searching out this topic, I wanted to, but time prevented it as I was at work. I will look through previous threads. At first I discarded even the thought of the voice poly, as I didn't know anything about it. After a bit of research, I found it is used in many law enforcement and government agencies etc, which doesn't always mean much. This might just be low level or preliminary truth seeking device in those agencies' eyes, as far as I know. However it is at a fraction of the actual poly and I don't have to drive 100 miles to do it. As for the research on it, it appears as if the results are in favor of whomever is paying for the research, the normal poly vs. voice poly. Trying to find the truth in the research has proven difficult, hehe. Tom, Yes I got hit pretty hard (deservedly so) from Melody and the bunch, and now you  -for that mistake. I don't want to make excuses here, but OM manages the floor and I manage the office part of the business we are in. It is a situation that requires us to communicate. It is soon coming to an end, as he has been offered, and has excepted, a "road" job from a different branch starting the first week of January. This is good for him, and me as I will be taking over completely at my location. I explained to OM and his W, I could no longer talk with either of them except for necessary business items, as it was setting us back in our recovery. I have only talked with him at work for necessary items such as results of meetings etc. As for backing out of the poly, not at all. I am just looking at options. We spoke with a voice polygraph tech who has been doing it for 30 years, sure put out a good pitch. I am leaning that direction and was hoping I could get some feedback on which direction I should go. I agree with the anxiety of the drive there, however, the waiting a day and sitting by the phone waiting for the call wouldn't be all that different to encourage her to be honest. As I said before, I want her to be honest because she wants to, not because she has to. The poly only confirms that for me. I am going to be a bit angry if she gives me something at the last minute only out of fear of failing, rather than the concept of being honest to preserve our marriage. Thanks,
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Me BH previous user name SEM WW Senninpaswife previous user name Keep Smiling Married 16 years - HS sweethearts 2 kids, Boy 15 years, Girl 13 years
WW's Affair #1,2,3,4 @ 1 year into marriage All ONS type PAs DDay #1 09/11/01 False recovery for 10 years
WW's Affair #5 07/11 - 10/11 with my best friend EA&PA DDay #2 11/27/11
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. I explained to OM and his W, I could no longer talk with either of them except for necessary business items, as it was setting us back in our recovery. I have only talked with him at work for necessary items such as results of meetings etc.
, Your only discussion with OM should have been 'leave my wife alone'. Then nothing. It sends a poor message to your wife. And as a fellow betrayed spouse, it baffles me how you COULD. This isnt someone who rear ended you - he mugged your marriage.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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Senninpa, I have not had experience with the voice polygraph. In fact this is the first reference I have heard of it. I would be very skeptical of the nonpersonal nature of a "lie detector" over the phone.
I am a federal law enforcement agent. I have taken three polygraphs. Two were to determine the degree of my waywardness. Let me assure the face to face nature allowed the "seasoned, veteran," law enforcement officer to "see" right thru any attempt of deception I may have wanted to pass by him.
Body language says so much to a well trained professional. A phone polygraph would be considered useless in the law enforcement world.
I would venture to say your city or one nearby has a professional polygraph examiner who possesses the latest polygraph training. Keep in mind these guys do this type of work in areas of homicides, robberies, missing persons, sexual assaults, and the list goes on. They wouldn't think of conducting an interview over the phone.
Additionally, the readings taken by the examiner during the exam include breathing patterns, pulse, and blood pressure. Alll of which give accurate readings to the examiners computer.
Polygraphs of today are technically sound. It is just a matter of finding the proper examiner and the wayward willing to take that step.
Good luck!
FWH 42 (me) BW 43 M 20yrs 3 DS 14, 17, 18 As for God his way is perfect, the word of the Lord is flawless. He is a shield to all who take refuge in him.~Proverbs 18:30
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