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As most of you know, Mel Gibson and his wife are divorced.

I read in an article that she is going to get half of his estimated $850 million estate and will be entitled to half of whatever else he might earn for the rest of his life.

Why? Because they never had a prenup.

Take that, you nasty WH!

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I'm a huge proponent of prenup. However, I think infidelity should be a clause in there that you forefit that prenup if infidelity is in the marriage.

I have an uncle whose wife cheated on him and left him for her affair partner and ended up with a huge amount and he was left with next to nothing. He had A LOT of money prior to the marriage...two houses, condo in Colorado for skiing, couple of boats, several classic cars, etc etc etc. She got most of it.


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She bore seven of his children and gave him 30 years of her life. I give her 75% if I was the judge. She was cheated on and humiliated by Mel Gibson all because he had sex with a gold digger. If his fog wasn't so thick, then he would have seen her for what she is a home-wrecking fool.

He ended up beating the snot out of his OW because he threw away his entire life for her. Their OC was planned so his OW could get some of his money too.

How does a Pre-Nup fit in with Dr. Harley's principles? A marriage is for life. Pre-Nup gives the feeling there is an out.


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Originally Posted by karmasrose
As most of you know, Mel Gibson and his wife are divorced.

I read in an article that she is going to get half of his estimated $850 million estate and will be entitled to half of whatever else he might earn for the rest of his life.

Why? Because they never had a prenup.

Take that, you nasty WH!

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Originally Posted by itistoughlove
How does a Pre-Nup fit in with Dr. Harley's principles? A marriage is for life. Pre-Nup gives the feeling there is an out.

Try looking at it with a BH's eyes, or a primary breadwinner's eyes.

A prenup (or post-nup) is about quantifying the cost of infidelity or divorce in an economic fashion.

You are making a generalized statement about prenups based off of your reaction to this instance, and from the standpoint of a BW.

What if it was his wife that was the cheater, and she walked away with a similar settlement? Would you opine the same way?

What if it were the SAHD of a billionaire businesswoman who went WH?

How does a prenub fit in with MB? By defining the severity of consequences for divorce or infidelity.


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Originally Posted by HoldHerHand
What if it was his wife that was the cheater, and she walked away with a similar settlement? Would you opine the same way?

Stop asking difficult questions HHH ! rotflmao

Me being unpopular:

I've met this WH/cheater/movie star.
He is charming and charismatic (when sober).
I'm pretty sure he 'fell off the wagon' and we all know what happens when that happens. sick puke

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He leapt straight off a cliff?


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Originally Posted by karmasrose
He leapt straight off a cliff?

Well, figuratively speaking... yes.

Addicts are terribly self destructive.

And, no, that isn't a free pass for anything. Addiction is a disease that the sufferer is responsible to manage.

Diabetics have to manage their blood sugars and use their medications, addicts have to NOT USE.


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Originally Posted by karmasrose
He leapt straight off a cliff?

Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by HoldHerHand
Originally Posted by itistoughlove
How does a Pre-Nup fit in with Dr. Harley's principles? A marriage is for life. Pre-Nup gives the feeling there is an out.

Try looking at it with a BH's eyes, or a primary breadwinner's eyes.

A prenup (or post-nup) is about quantifying the cost of infidelity or divorce in an economic fashion.

You are making a generalized statement about prenups based off of your reaction to this instance, and from the standpoint of a BW.

What if it was his wife that was the cheater, and she walked away with a similar settlement? Would you opine the same way?

What if it were the SAHD of a billionaire businesswoman who went WH?

How does a prenub fit in with MB? By defining the severity of consequences for divorce or infidelity.

I am against Pre-Nups 100%. You cannot go into a marriage with an out. Marriage is for life. If you want to change how assets are awarded in a divorce with infidelity, then change the laws. Vote for those who will support the betrayed.

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Originally Posted by itistoughlove
Originally Posted by HoldHerHand
Originally Posted by itistoughlove
How does a Pre-Nup fit in with Dr. Harley's principles? A marriage is for life. Pre-Nup gives the feeling there is an out.

Try looking at it with a BH's eyes, or a primary breadwinner's eyes.

A prenup (or post-nup) is about quantifying the cost of infidelity or divorce in an economic fashion.

You are making a generalized statement about prenups based off of your reaction to this instance, and from the standpoint of a BW.

What if it was his wife that was the cheater, and she walked away with a similar settlement? Would you opine the same way?

What if it were the SAHD of a billionaire businesswoman who went WH?

How does a prenub fit in with MB? By defining the severity of consequences for divorce or infidelity.

I am against Pre-Nups 100%. You cannot go into a marriage with an out. Marriage is for life. If you want to change how assets are awarded in a divorce with infidelity, then change the laws. Vote for those who will support the betrayed.

Until the day those candidates run, until the day those laws exist, my marriage will include a post-nup stating that FWW will receive no more than 25% of marital assets if divorce occurs due to infidelity committed by her.

It is an out; its an out for this BH if she ever gets it in her head she will get a cotton pickin thing from me for dippin in the honey pot.

And THAT supports this betrayed spouse.


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I don't think a pre-nup gives the illusion of an out at all. What it does give is the expectation that this is a binding contract for life and if it is broken, then things are forefeit.

In the case of my uncle, he lost 75% of everything in the marriage...except the debt. And a ton of things that he had before the marriage including very valuable family heirlooms that had huge sentimental value because they were given to him by his grandparents before they passed away.

This is worse than a travesty. It's theft. It's wrong. A prenup could have at least saved the emotionally valuable stuff.


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