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I don't have anything to add to the excellent advise you're receiving, but just wanted to say you're doing the right thing, and doing great.
After my W got her head out of her backside, she thanked me for fighting for our marriage. I suspect your W will too.
I know it's hard, but it does get better! Keep up the good fight!
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Also got a facebook message from a guy claiming to have participated in drugging and raping a woman with Angelo.  Save this!
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The Facebook friend of Angelo's said the following "i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs"
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Ascending,
We don't talk about OM anymore, but even just last night, saying our 'goodnites' in bed to each other, W said to me "you are such a strong person; thank you for fighting for our family....and for saving me..."
We don't have to even mention OM anymore to know what that really means: in MY darkest moments, I saved HER from destroying herself, from spiraling down that path...
That's HUGE, just HUGE.
Keep up the good work!
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Also got a facebook message from a guy claiming to have participated in drugging and raping a woman with Angelo. Why would someone incriminate themselves like this, even through Facebook messaging? Something just doesn't sit right with this. (At the same time, based on what we know about Angelo, I doubt his associates were picked due to their standing on the Ivy League graduate register.) This is an admission and allegation of a very serious, violent crime. Does this person have identifiable information on Facebook? What were his exact words in relaying this admission and allegation?
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Also got a facebook message from a guy claiming to have participated in drugging and raping a woman with Angelo. Why would someone incriminate themselves like this, even through Facebook messaging? Something just doesn't sit right with this. (At the same time, based on what we know about Angelo, I doubt his associates were picked due to their standing on the Ivy League graduate register.) This is an admission and allegation of a very serious, violent crime. Does this person have identifiable information on Facebook? What were his exact words in relaying this admission and allegation? I would provide this to the IG also. They will know what to do with it! If you can get the guy to spill more...even better. But do provide at least this to the IG!
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The Facebook friend of Angelo's said the following "i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs" Got it. This is just part of Angelo's slime-trail trying to get you riled up. Ignore it and continue with the full-court press on the affair. You're doing great. EDIT: But by all means, add this to the evidence package. Might be one of Angelo's Army buddies in whom the IG would also take a special interest.
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The Facebook friend of Angelo's said the following "i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs" Got it. This is just part of Angelo's slime-trail trying to get you riled up. Ignore it and continue with the full-court press on the affair. You're doing great. Okay...I get it now. I thought they were admitting to doing this to another woman. If this is a guy saying they did it to your wife, unless you have indication that it actually happened...I would just leave it alone and stay on mission.
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"But by all means, add this to the evidence package. Might be one of Angelo's Army buddies in whom the IG would also take a special interest."
Another good point! The IG could use this guy to play off against the OM!
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No answer from IG office yet. Left a message and I will be calling all afternoon till I get a human.
In response to Mortarman's wondering if I am a Christian. Probably not in the sense that you're meaning, but I do love Jesus deeply, and am grateful for the way Jesus works through people like yourself.
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No answer from IG office yet. Left a message and I will be calling all afternoon till I get a human.
In response to Mortarman's wondering if I am a Christian. Probably not in the sense that you're meaning, but I do love Jesus deeply, and am grateful for the way Jesus works through people like yourself. Well, if you love Jesus and have accepted him as your Lord and Savior...then you are a Christian! And that makes Him inside YOU also! The reason I asked is that if you are a Christian, then you have nothing to fear from this idiot. He cannot do ANYTHING to you that Jesus does not allow. So, knowing that...you have no worries then!
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While I wait for the IG for 1st Cav to answer their phone, here is the script I plan to follow in that conversation. Any suggestions?
Complaint against AF for the IG at Ft Hood 1-254-287-6775
Phone call, recorded, Thursday 11-19-2012 to a cell phone number in Texas that AF answered: 254***
Important parts for the IG to hear:
Adultery:
�I�m not married. Adultery is not illegal for me.�
�You didn�t win [censored]. When that ball drops, and your wife is still [censored] other dudes, that�s going to be your problem.�
"I want you to tell the IG that you can�t keep your wife. And you got no proof that I slept with her."
"Your wife, I just got off the phone with her, right before you called. Your wife knows that I will destroy your [censored] punk [censored]."
"Your such a big man on the phone, that�s why your wife wants other guys."
"Actually call your wife on 3 way so we all can talk."
Lying about adultery:
�When the IG talks to me, we�re just friends.�
Physical threats:
�I�m telling you.. your [censored] killed.�
You live at 2009 P--- St, 37---. I�m just telling you I know where the [censored] you live.
�You [censored] up my world, I'm gonna destroy yours� 3m
�If I seen you right now I�d break your jaw so you couldn�t talk.�
�You [censored] up my life, I will be on your doorstep.�
"How are you raising your son there?"
"I�m telling you, its gonna be lovely, when we�re together."
Finally he asks if I'm alone. I say I'm not. He hangs up the phone.
To be referred to as necessary: Article 134 of UCMJ that talks about THREATS:
(1) That the accused communicated certain language expressing a present determination or intent to wrongfully injure the person, property, or reputation of another person, presently or in the future;
(2) That the communication was made known to that person or to a third person;
(3) That the communication was wrongful; and
(4) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.
Responses to my facebook message that I sent detailing Angelo�s pursuit of my wife, with full knowledge that she was married.
Responses detailing his behavior as a sexual predator
�He has been doing the same to me and i am glad that i read this message. The guy is a loser and he has a long time girlfriend. I cant get him to leave me alone either. What a grease ball.�
�He has been contacting me since about November of last year and he actually telephoned last night and a few times in the past few weeks but i haven't given him the time of day. He has been lewd on messages to me via facebook and he has given me a sob story about his mothers death. He has never mentioned the stuff that he has been unloading on your wife so for all i know his mothers death is bs too. Can you believe this guy? I can't.�
Response detailing a rape that Angelo may have participated in.
"i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs"
Information suggesting Angelo suffers from PTSD and needs help with it.
Haunted by images of those he killed in Iraq as a sniper. Faces of children he shot. Faces of women whose husbands he shot.
Haunted by experience of being the only survivor of a roadside bomb attack.
Having his own marriage end due to his wife leaving him for another man while Angelo was in Iraq.
Behavior as a sexual predator. Threats against me.
Summary of offences: Adultery Conduct unbecoming Threats against an individual Lying to a commissioned officer
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First, edit your post to blot out the Om's phone number!! You dont need folks calling him from here!
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The one of the charges at the bottom does not apply. Specifically, he has not YET lied to a commissioned officer.
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Responses detailing his behavior as a sexual predator
�He has been doing the same to me and i am glad that i read this message. The guy is a loser and he has a long time girlfriend. I cant get him to leave me alone either. What a grease ball.�
�He has been contacting me since about November of last year and he actually telephoned last night and a few times in the past few weeks but i haven't given him the time of day. He has been lewd on messages to me via facebook and he has given me a sob story about his mothers death. He has never mentioned the stuff that he has been unloading on your wife so for all i know his mothers death is bs too. Can you believe this guy? I can't.�
Response detailing a rape that Angelo may have participated in.
"i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs" I would be showing this to your MIL ASAP
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Responses detailing his behavior as a sexual predator
�He has been doing the same to me and i am glad that i read this message. The guy is a loser and he has a long time girlfriend. I cant get him to leave me alone either. What a grease ball.�
�He has been contacting me since about November of last year and he actually telephoned last night and a few times in the past few weeks but i haven't given him the time of day. He has been lewd on messages to me via facebook and he has given me a sob story about his mothers death. He has never mentioned the stuff that he has been unloading on your wife so for all i know his mothers death is bs too. Can you believe this guy? I can't.�
Response detailing a rape that Angelo may have participated in.
"i know all about that i was there got her fuccd up on ghb and we ran a train on that [censored].get a life lame.kik roccs" I would be showing this to your MIL ASAP Wait! Normally I agree. But he needs to drop all of this on the IG FIRST! As soon as the IG has it and takes a bite...then he can go into full exposure of all of this. Patience folks!
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MIL? Is there a list of abbreviations somewhere?
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Okay, yeah, that does make more sense.
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Acronyms MIL=Mother In Law
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