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1st Cav IG is not answering. Should I try and send an email?
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1st Cav IG is not answering. Should I try and send an email? Its Friday...they might not be in...or are doing like the rest of us...preparing to head out. Did you get a contact there? Did he give you his email?
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A quick question: Are you dealing with the 1st Cav IG or the Fort Hood IG?
The 1st Cav IG is the one that will handle it, even if you are talking to the Fort Hood IG...as the IG closest to the issue is the one that handles the issue.
Just a question...
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I started yesterday morning talking to Fort Hood IG, he sent me to 1st Cav IG. The guy who answered took my information, read me a brief statement about releasing my information, which I agreed to, and then he said he would pass it on to the IG who would call me back. No call back yet. So I called and left a message briefly outlining the new information I have.
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Ascending, if your wife ever finds her way out of the fog, you'll forever be her hero for saving her from this guy.
Stay strong. Stay persistent. Be nice, but be persistent.
Call 0800 TX time Monday. If you get the IG riled up and feeling harassed before he's even settled his morning coffee, he may be inclined to unleash his displeasure on ol' SSgt Angelo.
And we'd really hate that, wouldn't we?
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Just got off the phone with the clerk at 1st Cav IG. I have someone assigned to my case, but their out on a training. Can expect a call sometime next week. Apparently they had my phone number incorrect, so that's why they didn't call back.
Clerk recommended that I send an email to my caseworker explaining the situation.
When I told the clerk about the direct threat to my life, he recommended that I call the police and put a restraining order on Angelo.
Any suggestions? Should I bother with the restraining order?
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I don't know, ascending. When you posted that Angelo may be involved in a drugging/rape, I was definitely thinking you should involve local law enforcement, but now I'm not so sure.
I'm ambivalent about the utility of a RO. It won't stop Angelo from doing anything if he's inclined to do it.
It certainly wouldn't help his position with his command if you filed, and your local authorities deemed there's enough evidence to grant a RO.
If you feel threatened, I think it's something you should consider. I suggest you balance the possible utility of a RO with the appearance that you're acting in fear of Angelo. It's very likely that this is exactly the effect he's after.
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I suggest you balance the possible utility of an RO with the appearance that you're acting in fear of Angelo This is precisely why I wouldn't do it. If it were me I wouldn't give either of them the satisfaction of showing any weakness. Appearances are everything in battle
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Don't file the restraining order. It's worthless. If you tick him off enough to come to TN from TX he isn't gonna stop in his tracks over a restraining order. When he is confronted with this uncomfortable situation at work he will leave your wife alone and move on to someone else that doesn't give him so many problems. He is just using her, but he has no attachment and will not hesitate to move on to someone else if it's going to cost him money.
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I knew I was missing something... Responses detailing his behavior as a sexual predator
�He has been doing the same to me and i am glad that i read this message. The guy is a loser and he has a long time girlfriend. I cant get him to leave me alone either. What a grease ball.� Obviously this person isn't very fond of Slimeball so she may be willing to help you get contact info on this long time GF. Wouldn't hurt to ask. Worst she can do is say no
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Ascending, let me post this for your consideration:
Sniping is a specialty. It's a specialty because it requires specific characteristics and in-depth training to hone those characteristics. It takes much more than a dead eye and steady hand. It takes a higher level of self-discipline, discernment, and intelligence than you'll generally find in the rank-and-file.
Note that your wife's paramour reflects the exact opposite of the described characteristics.
In addition, people that have been in combat, and have been traumatized by their experiences, just don't sit down and spill their guts to some stranger on an airplane. This just doesn't happen.
In all likelihood, your clown Angelo is some food service specialist or grease-jockey from the motor pool trading on the mystique of the sniper community to pick off the low-hanging fruit of the female variety, and to try to frighten the uninformed males. In short, he's a major punk, and you've displayed more cojones in your short time on this forum than you'd get if you ground up him and all his friends and strained them through a fine-mesh colander.
But, the Army is not my forte, so let the others chime in on this opinion.
You're doing everything right. Keep up the pressure. Don't wait on the IG to call you. As previously suggested, call your IG contact at 0-dark-thirty Monday morning, offer any new evidence, ask him/her what's being done, and what they plan to do.
Maybe Angelo can learn some real soldiering from you: once you have your enemy on the run, don't stop until you've chased them down and achieved full quarter.
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Here is the opening letter I will send to the IG. Suggestions welcome.
For the past two months ***EDIT*** has put my family through the worst hell we have ever experienced. On or about November, 8 2011 ***EDIT*** met my wife on a plane. He started telling her how damaged he was by his experiences in Iraq, and how mentally unstable he is as a result. He talked about how he is haunted by the images of people he has killed and how he doesn�t know if he can control himself enough to ever heal. ***EDIT*** conveyed the distinct impression that he is a danger to himself and others. After the flight he �friended� her on facebook and started to use her pity for him has the basis of a seduction that she did not see coming. She told him to stop, that she was married and had a 7 year old boy at home and a husband that she loves. But he would not stop with his pitiful stories.
My wife is a caregiver. She trains people on how to overcome Cancer and other diseases using nutrition. She is a real life miracle worker with big heart who will put herself on the line to help someone in need. Her job is extremely intense. She basically moves in for a week with families suffering from illness, teaching them how to heal themselves with a very specific diet, cleansing, and prescription medication. It is exhausting, draining work. At the end of her stay in Texas, when ***EDIT*** would not relent, and was begging to see her, torturing her with tales of his impending madness, she relented. On or about November 15th 2011 my wife met ***EDIT*** at a hotel and, after talking, they had sex.
Since the adultery that took place on or about November 15th , ***EDIT*** has continued his seduction of my wife, relentlessly contacting her via facebook and phone, torturing her with his unending self pity that makes her feel that she is the only person keeping ***EDIT*** alive right now. She told me about this on Jan 2 2012. Our 7 year old son overheard us talking about this, and how threatened I feel by this mentally unstable sniper who is clearly suffering from PTSD and is in love with my wife. My son completely freaked out and for a while thought that ***EDIT*** was coming to kill us all. We managed to talk him down and he seems OK now, but I can see that the fear of ***EDIT*** is still there in my son.
Two weeks ago jan 4 2012. I had a brief phone conversation with ***EDIT*** that was not encouraging. He attempted to mislead me at every turn, and conveyed only a vague sense of remorse for what he had done. He promised to never contact my wife again, but after that call he continued his seduction of my wife.
Clearly my wife and I have problems, and I am committed to dealing with them. But we cannot start to work on them while this affair is going on and, following the advice of Willard F. Harley, Jr., Ph.D, as well as friends and family who have done so in the past, I have taken action to have all contact between ***EDIT*** and my wife ended. Contacting you is one part of that plan. I have also, following Dr. Harley�s advice, contacted every �facebook� friend of SSG Ferreira, warned them about his unstable and predatory behavior, and asked for help in contacting is commanding officer at Ft Hood so that Ferreira will be ordered to cease all contact with my wife. Unexpectedly I have started to receive back stories from other women that ***EDIT*** has sexually harassed and exploited, as well as one story of a rape he may have participated in.
Last night I called ***EDIT*** on his cell phone and recorded the conversation which, to the best of my knowledge, is completely legal to do in both TN, where I am, and in TX, where I assume he is based on the TX area code for his cell phone number. In both TN and TX it is legal to record a phone call if only one of the participants knows it is being recorded. Regardless, ***EDIT*** expressed his knowledge that the call was most likely being recorded. During this phone call I told ***EDIT*** that I had already opened a case with the IG at Ft. Hood, and that I had contacted all of his facebook friends.
I am attaching a transcript of some key moments in this rambling 20 minute converstion, during which ***EDIT*** admits to committing adultery, though he thinks he is immune from charges because he is not married, threatens my life, and states that he will lie to any IG that asks him questions about this. I will be glad to provide you with digital copies of the recording if necessary.
Having spoken with a retired Army IG about my situation, it is my understanding that the transcripts and recordings will give you the "preponderance of evidence" that you need to at the very least contact ***EDIT*** commanding officer(CO). If you determine that you do have a �preponderance of evidence�, I expect that the CO will then call ***EDIT*** in and ask him, point blank, if he has committed adultery with ***EDIT*** and threatened the life of her husband. If ***EDIT*** admits to what he has done, I ask that at the very least he be ordered to cease all contact with my wife. If he lies about what he has done, I expect a report to be sent to the Judge Advocate General Corps (JAG).
I am also attaching two facebook messages I received from �friends� of ***EDIT***. One is from a woman who he is now actively harassing. Another is from a fairly seedy associate of ***EDIT***, who apparently mistook the events I described with a �drug rape� that he says he perpetrated with ***EDIT***.
My wife has also indicated that ***EDIT*** is suffering from PTSD. He is daily traumatized by images of those he killed in Iraq as a sniper. He is particularly troubled by the faces of young girls that he shot and of women whose husbands he shot. He is also haunted by the experience of being the only survivor of a roadside bomb attack. I suspect that ***EDIT*** sexual predation is linked to having his own marriage end due to his wife leaving him for another man while he was in Iraq.
I will continue gathering evidence against ***EDIT*** and will let you know what I find. My goal is end ***EDIT*** unrelenting torture of my family. I am also trying to get him the help he needs to heal. Thank you
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After reading your letter, which is more detailed in the things Angelo claims, now I'm absolutely certain that SSG Angelo is FOS.
(And you won't find that one in Dr. Harley's list of acronyms.)
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ascending, PLEASE blot out your wife's name now
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Way too much un-needed information.
Remember the acronym KISS (Keep it simple stupid)
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yea, you want to break it down to the facts. They dont care what your wife does or her personality. It does not matter and makes it sound like she has convinced you that it was not her fault, he talked her into it. (I really hope you dont belive that)
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Here is the opening letter I will send to the IG. Suggestions welcome.
For the past two months ***edit*** has put my family through the worst hell we have ever experienced. On or about November, 8 2011 **edit**met my wife on a plane. He started telling her how damaged he was by his experiences in Iraq, and how mentally unstable he is as a result. He talked about how he is haunted by the images of people he has killed and how he doesn’t know if he can control himself enough to ever heal. ***edit***conveyed the distinct impression that he is a danger to himself and others. After the flight he “friended” her on facebook and started to use her pity for him has the basis of a seduction that she did not see coming. She told him to stop, that she was married and had a 7 year old boy at home and a husband that she loves. But he would not stop with his pitiful stories of his experiences in Iraq.
My wife is a very compasionate woman.caregiver. She trains people on how to overcome Cancer and other diseases using nutrition. She is a real life miracle worker with big heart who will put herself on the line to help someone in need. Her job is extremely intense. She basically moves in for a week with families suffering from illness, teaching them how to heal themselves with a very specific diet, cleansing, and prescription medication. It is exhausting, draining work. At the end of her stay in Texas, when ***edit***would not relent, and was begging to see her, torturing her with tales of his impending madness, she relented. On or about November 15th 2011 my wife met **edit** at a hotel and, after talking, they had sex.
Since the adultery that took place on or about November 15th , ***edit**has continued his seduction of my wife, relentlessly contacting her via facebook and phone, torturing her with his unending self pity that makes her feel that she is the only person keeping **edit**alive right now. She told me about this on Jan 2 2012. Our 7 year old son overheard us talking about this, and how threatened I feel by this mentally unstable sniper who is clearly suffering from PTSD and is in love with my wife. My son completely freaked out and for a while thought that **edit***was coming to kill us all. We managed to talk him down and he seems OK now, but I can see that the fear of **edit**is still there in my son.
Two weeks ago jan 4 2012. I had a brief phone conversation with ***edit***that was not encouraging. He attempted to mislead me at every turn, and conveyed only a vague sense of remorse for what he had done. He promised to never contact my wife again, but after that call he continued his seduction of my wife.
Clearly my wife and I have problems, and I am committed to dealing with them. But we cannot start to work on them while this affair is going on and, following the advice of Willard F. Harley, Jr., Ph.D, as well as friends and family who have done so in the past, I request for you to takehave taken action to have all contact between **edit**and my wife ended. Contacting you is one part of that plan. I have also, following Dr. Harley’s advice, contacted every “facebook” friend of***edit**8, warned them about his unstable and predatory behavior, and asked for help in contacting is commanding officer at Ft Hood so that **edit** will be ordered to cease all contact with my wife. Unexpectedly I have started to receive back stories from other women that **edit**has sexually harassed and exploited, as well as one story of a rape he may have participated in.
Last night I called **edit**on his cell phone and recorded the conversation. which, to the best of my knowledge, is completely legal to do in both TN, where I am, and in TX, where I assume he is based on the TX area code for his cell phone number. In both TN and TX it is legal to record a phone call if only one of the participants knows it is being recorded. Regardless, **edit**expressed his knowledge that the call was most likely being recorded. During this phone call I told **edit**that I had already opened a case with the IG at Ft. Hood, and that I had contacted all of his facebook friends.
I am attaching a transcript of some key moments in this rambling 20 minute converstion, during which **edit**admits to committing adultery, though he thinks he is immune from charges because he is not married, threatens my life, and states that he will lie to any IG that asks him questions about this. I will be glad to provide you with digital copies of the recording if necessary.
Having spoken with a retired Army IG about my situation, it is my understanding that the transcripts and recordings will give you the "preponderance of evidence" that you need to at the very least contact **edit**’s commanding officer(CO). If you determine that you do have a “preponderance of evidence”, I expect that the CO will then call **edit**in and ask him, point blank, if he has committed adultery with **edit**and threatened the life of her husband. If **edit** admits to what he has done, I ask that at the very least he be ordered to cease all contact with my wife. If he lies about what he has done, I expect a report to be sent to the Judge Advocate General Corps (JAG).
I am also attaching two facebook messages I received from “friends” of **edit**. One is from a woman who he is now actively harassing. Another is from a fairly seedy associate of **edit**, who apparently mistook the events I described with a “drug rape” that he says he perpetrated with **edit**.
My wife has also indicated that **edit**is suffering from PTSD. He is daily traumatized by images of those he killed in Iraq as a sniper. He is particularly troubled by the faces of young girls that he shot and of women whose husbands he shot. He is also haunted by the experience of being the only survivor of a roadside bomb attack. I suspect that **edit** sexual predation is linked to having his own marriage end due to his wife leaving him for another man while he was in Iraq.
I will continue gathering evidence against SSG and will let you know what I find. My goal is end **edit** unrelenting torture of my family. I am also trying to get him the help he needs to heal. Thank you This is removing bare minimum. I still think there is more here than needed. If they need more information, they will ask you for it.
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Listen to LD, stick to the facts and take emotion out. It will be much more convincing.
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Ascending, let me post this for your consideration:
Sniping is a specialty. It's a specialty because it requires specific characteristics and in-depth training to hone those characteristics. It takes much more than a dead eye and steady hand. It takes a higher level of self-discipline, discernment, and intelligence than you'll generally find in the rank-and-file.
Note that your wife's paramour reflects the exact opposite of the described characteristics.
In addition, people that have been in combat, and have been traumatized by their experiences, just don't sit down and spill their guts to some stranger on an airplane. This just doesn't happen.
In all likelihood, your clown Angelo is some food service specialist or grease-jockey from the motor pool trading on the mystique of the sniper community to pick off the low-hanging fruit of the female variety, and to try to frighten the uninformed males. In short, he's a major punk, and you've displayed more cojones in your short time on this forum than you'd get if you ground up him and all his friends and strained them through a fine-mesh colander.
But, the Army is not my forte, so let the others chime in on this opinion.
You're doing everything right. Keep up the pressure. Don't wait on the IG to call you. As previously suggested, call your IG contact at 0-dark-thirty Monday morning, offer any new evidence, ask him/her what's being done, and what they plan to do.
Maybe Angelo can learn some real soldiering from you: once you have your enemy on the run, don't stop until you've chased them down and achieved full quarter. I'm not in the Army, but I am a Marine. My unit was the first one in Iraq in 2003. I've seen the horrors of combat. That doesn't give any excuse to behave in a manner that discredits myself or the Marine Corps. Don't let this POS scare you. That's all he's trying to do. I can sit and tell stories and lies just like anyone else, but the fact is, I know better. We are all evaluated when we come home and treated as necessary. It took me a few years to understand what PTSD actually is. I'm sure every BS suffers from some sort of it. Just keep doing what you're doing and don't play into his threats. Remember, you're saving your family. That's all that matters.
Me: BH 36 Her: WW 34 Kids: D 14, S 12, S 9 DDay 1-6/2009 DDay 2-9/2011 DDay 3-11/2011 Filed for D 10/2011-Papers Served 11/2011 Divorce final May 24, 2012 My Story
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Okay, while I certainly agree it's too lengthy, I have a question about striking this part. My wife has also indicated that ***EDIT*** is suffering from PTSD. He is daily traumatized by images of those he killed in Iraq as a sniper. He is particularly troubled by the faces of young girls that he shot and of women whose husbands he shot. He is also haunted by the experience of being the only survivor of a roadside bomb attack. I suspect that ***EDIT*** sexual predation is linked to having his own marriage end due to his wife leaving him for another man while he was in Iraq. Considering the fact that this paragraph could fall under the umbrella of "Conduct Unbecoming" could it be somewhat beneficial to leave it in? I'm not sure what the criteria is for determining "CO" so just raising a point. I have no idea personally. GJM, MM, OWH, you military guys around?
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