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I did. It could have been much worse, but just the thought of what they did, even kissing, makes me ill to my stomach. Stupid little things like her wearing her wedding ring while she was doing this, etc... just seem to bother me.

The good news is these thoughts are less and less common everyday so there is progress for sure. Just takes a bit of time and healing I guess.

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It is positive that your wife shows contrition. Do not make it too easy on her. She needs to do the heavy lifting.

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JH,

but just the thought of what they did, even kissing, makes me ill to my stomach.

I think some of that is the fact, according to your earlier posts, that your W appeared to have no sex drive for a long time. So not only did she have sex with OM, but she did not have sincere sex with you for a seeming eternity, so the dishonesty went on for much longer than just the affair.

In my case it was the affair with OM2 that killed my sex life for years, during that time I would have given anything for enthusiastic kissing.

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"but just the thought of what they did, even kissing, makes me ill to my stomach" Sorry for your situation. These feeling are perfectly normal. I used to let these thoughts drive me crazy because there was no site like this at the time my wife had left. In time these thoughts will lesson and in reality what you think happened is probably not as you are now perceiving it in your mind. Now I can look back still remember what happened but now it doesn't really matter. My wife and I can even joke about it because we now have as close to a perfect marriage that is possible. Hang in there I know things look bad now but trust me times will get better.

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jayhawker, I just found this recent post by Dr Harley on the private forum. A poster over there was complaining about how much fighting she and her H did in "marriage counseling":

Originally Posted by Dr Harley
A 1996 Consumer's Report study found that only 17% of those who saw a marriage counselor felt that it did them any good. Most felt that it damaged their marriage. With those results in mind, I wrote, "Effective Marriage Counseling" to help counselors succeed where most have failed. You might also read my article, "How to Find a Good Marriage Counselor" in the articles section of the MB website.

First and foremost, a marriage counselor should not counsel a couple together unless strict rules to avoid offensive comments are in place. If a spouse breaks those rules, the couples should come to the counselor together, but not be seen at the same time.

What assignments has your counselor given you? Have you done what he recommends? If you have, and you have not seen positive results, the advice is not helpful. If you have not followed the advice, he can't be blamed if things are not turning out.

Generally, we do not recommend counseling by others when a couple is in our program. That's because there are usually too many conflicting concepts, and that leaves a couple confused. For example, we tell those who are rebuilding their marriage after an affair to completely avoid talking about it. Is that what your counselor recommends? If I were counseling you and you ever brought up the subject of the affair with your husband present in my office, I would immediately tell you to stop talking about it. When a couple leaves my office, I want them to feel better about their marriage than when they came. If leaving his office makes you feel worse, even some of the time, you've got the wrong counselor.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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HJ once again Melody is giving you some very sound advise. My wife ask me for a divorce out of the blue. I think there was a man at work that was pursuing her. I was able to get an appointment with a marriage councilor the next day. We went to the counselor that I was paying his advise to my wife was that she separate immediately. You can picture my reaction of what I said to him. The next day I came home from work to an empty house. I would be leery of marriage councilors at this stage.

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I can completely understand how that would change your thinking of marriage counselors forever. So far she is having us meet individually and together with her. She told me that she cannot tell me what her and my wife talk about, but she did say that she would make it perfectly clear to me if she thought that I should get out. Basically she was looking out for me. So far the sessions have went well and we have had homework to do together.

I am still leary of the counselor, and both my wife and I have told ourselves that once we feel like there really isn't anything in counseling that is benefiting our marriage, then we will stop the sessions and go another route to help our marriage. So far so good though.

It hurts a little less every day, but the random thoughts still come sometimes. Those have been fewer and fewer too. We have received tremendous support from family and friends throughout this. There have been a few people associated with the wife of the OM that have been trying to put the whole situation on my wife and use her as a scapegoat. During this whole thing she has not once tried to make the affair about me. She has taken total ownership of it and says that it took both of them to make it happen so they are equally responsible. The way it sounds the OM told his wife that my wife was the one pursuing him and he caved in. They are working on their marriage but if this is the type of half truth he is spewing to his wife, I can't imagine their marriage surviving this.

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