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Originally Posted by Aphelion
By the way, Mel, I am pretty darn sure I no longer have any intimate ENs. I consciously suppressed them well enough and long enough now to probably make this state permanent.

I know exactly what Dr. Harley says about people who feel that way. smile


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PrayIncessantly, I would like to applaud you for your awareness to your children's needs. Very commendable... If every child of divorce had such an aware parent, I can only imagine that these children would have a better chance to grow into well adjusted adults.

Our childhoods do help shape us into the adults we become, like it or not. Confidence or lack of confidence can certainly be instilled by your parents. Some of us have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps just to survive, on the other hand, kids from homes who were given the confidence to BELIEVE in themselves have a huge jump start in life.

It's true we all make choices in life, every day we make choices. My husband and I are both products of divorce. I deal every day with my husband who's spent his life putting up walls so he doesn't get hurt anymore...And those walls include keeping me out. I did different for my kids... I made the choice as a young mother to always, every day, tell my kids I love them. Give them hugs, give them opportunities to feel good about themselves etc. so they could concentrate on the important things in life. SCHOOL, getting their education. Not worrying about finding a girlfriend to give them a false sense of acceptance and the 'love' they should be getting at home. It works... At least it worked for my older boys.

And it's a wonderful thing to see your adult child successful and happy. Believe me!

Keep up the good fight! They are 18 and gone before you know it...

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Originally Posted by markos
I know exactly what Dr. Harley says about people who feel that way. smile
LOL. Wait 'till he gets a load of me.

I have experienced dozens and dozens of blatant opportunities to commit adultery. Adultery of every ilk. ONS. Business trips. Friends with benefits. Same time next year. Long term entangled. Many of these opportunities were before I was married � I would have been just another run of the mill OM (ugh). Most have been since I was married. Just last week the barista down the street hit on me for the umpteenth time. (I find I am mostly embarrassed. She is cute, but young enough to be my daughter.)

The entire spectrum of adultery has been laid out before me at one time or another. Both before and after the multiple D-Days of wife�s VLTA. During the extreme distance she put between us during her VLTA. When none of my ENs was met in the slightest - for a decade. When she was downright mean. But still I didn�t.

Over and over, I could have been just like every sneaky lying WS and FWS on this site. And I am pretty sure I would have gotten away with every last opportunity. I could have made every WS ever shown up on MB look like a saint in comparison.

I have been tested and retested. Still, no desire whatsoever to commit that mortal sin. Plenty of other things in life to keep me occupied. I no longer care about ENs. I had to pinch them off permanently just to survive.


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WS: They are who they are.

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And it bites off your snout
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