One of the main things about marriage counselors is what they school themselves in is the study in "what went wrong" in failed marriages, taking the words of people who have had failed marriages and attempting to apply foggy logic to building a new marriage.

If I never successfully rebuilt the motor from a corvette, how the heck can I tell someone else how to do it successfully?

What sets Dr. Harley and a select few others apart is that they went out and looked what goes on in lifelong successful marriages. They asked people in lifelong, happy marriages how they did it.

You can't learn to play basketball like Michael Jordan by studying Dickey Simpkins.

Additionally, infidelity isn't something that is very well trained for counselors. Pouring through the academic journals last year I read a write-up about just that, and how these professionals don't have the studies to attempt to implement the normal approach of evidence-based practice. Instead, they are better off to rely on practice-based evidence for what works.

Thankfully we have several decades of practice-based evidence to work with here, and as new observations develop, Dr. Harley tailors the approach to what the evidence suggests (think about the addition to SAA on exposure).

The base of the program is based on sound psychology and it's practical application to marital relationships, with the addition to the study of successful marriages and evolving concepts based on the feedback from successful users of the program.


....... and nearly everything you could ever want to learn about it is freely available!

I challenge anyone to find a single marriage specialist out there other than Dr. Harley that has 99% of their program available completely free! I haven't seen one yet!

I don't even know who Dickey Simpkins is but this cracked me up!


Yet some say that Dr Harley controls the content of his forum only to make a buck!

The difference between Harley and everyone else is that Harley tracks his own progress and bases his program on what WORKS. If the concept doesn't work, he throws it out. When he first tried these concepts, he didn't charge people [in his practice] because he didn't know if they actually worked. Others don't know or care if their program works.

Those of us went through the MB course are asked to take surveys at various points in the course to test our progress. And if we are not progressing, our coach finds out why and changes our course. THAT is the difference between Harley and others.

Of the other noted marriage specialists that I've researched, not a single one has as much as 1/4... heck 1/10 of their program online and available freely.



Also; Dickey Simpkins is regarded as one of the worst basketball players ever. Though he did ride Michael Jordan's coattails to a championship ring.

and that is why i only see female ob/gyns!

I hear ya. I was actually somewhat relieved that the only birth I had to attend in mother/baby clinicals was a C-section. The rest of the time msyelf and the only other male in the program sat in a back room on the unit watching videos.



Our Prof sent us in on a laproscopic cholychystecotmy, and the C-section came in after that. My classmate went home, but I stayed.

Did my part on 4 births (my 3 daughters, and a niece), that's good enough for me.

If any 80-year-old women decide to give birth, though, I'm screwed!

*Cholecystectomy*

I don't want to know what that is...

Ain't nuthin' but a gallbladder removal.

I knew that.

Cause I'm on the Internet and used Google.

On the Internet, I can feel like I know everything. It's like being a teenager again.

Not gory or gross at all... 5 small holes in the gut, and in go the tools.

The C-section? Ugh, that's another story...

I said I didn't want to know!

Wait, 5 holes? How...how the heck does...?

I always was too curious for my own good...I hear things like that and want to know how they work.

Dear rain:

Please go away. We don't need you here in VA right now.

Those nice folks out west could really use you though.

(Sorry for TJ. )

2 are for the surgical instruments, 1 for the camera, and one for pumping gas into the abdominal cavity to create working space... the 5th? Bah, can't remember.

It was a rather sci-fi experience, watching robot claws snip away at the attachments of the gallbladder to the liver, and then do little electrical zaps for cutting and cauterizing as well.

I got to sit in on 5 surgeries total in school; 2 tubals, 1 c-section, 1 tib/fib fracture reduction, and the chole. The chole was the most fun, as I could see the whole thing on the monitors.

That sounds completely awesome, but I'm not sure about something...

Why don't they just make one incision and be done with it? Or did they find that this was safer in the long run?

/medical newbie

Laproscopic incisions are small incisions. If you lined all of them up as one incision, it would still be dwarfed by the incision required for working room.

Recovery is faster, less chance for infection and/or complications post op.

Oh, I see. That does make more sense.

My rant for the day: Two faced people who talk out of both sides of their mouth and pretend to care.

Why do they come back and do that? Is it some kind of sick joke to "act" like they care? Why not stay away?

Maybe because they were mentioned specifically?

Sheesh.