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Pepperband....
Thank you for your post for those of us just reading along and not just nikkin.
I don't wish to hijack this thread. Just to say thank you for some cold hard truths. I have printed your comments out and taped them to the sunvisor on my car.

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Originally Posted by hurtingturkey
I have printed your comments out and taped them to the sunvisor on my car.

Really? How cool! Thanks.

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I have printed your comments out and taped them to the sunvisor on my car.

Really? How cool! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by BrainHurts
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I have printed your comments out and taped them to the sunvisor on my car.

Really? How cool! Thanks.
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I have printed your comments out and taped them to the sunvisor on my car.

Really? How cool! Thanks.
There are many reasons she is the Queen. smile

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Originally Posted by Pepperband
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That one comment of yours told me nearly everything I need to know about your problem-solving ability.


"Can't see the forest for the trees" ... Are you familiar with this old saying? What does it mean?

Asking the SAME QUESTION "1000 times" means YOU are too involved in the details of a problem and you are missing the situation as a whole. This is true for anyone who asks the same question "1000 times".

Stand back. Put your emotions aside so you can think clearly. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

Does this mean I should not ask, seek answers any longer? It has been 2 and 1/2 months. I am sad that there were lies to answers he swore were the truth, even small things that just did not seem to be needed to be lied to. One was he said he always was at a hotel with her, til the other night he said at her apartment once, the first time. I asked why would you lie about something like that.. It matter not at all to me.. where he had sex with her as long as not at our house, or our lake house! He said he thought I would think they were closer if he said it.. but IF it was the first time.. why would they be closer??? odd.. Maybe I just answered the question myself.. her apt was not the first time.. but later.


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Originally Posted by nikkin
Does this mean I should not ask, seek answers any longer?

It means stand back and see the broader picture beyond the minutia of every detail.

Who is this man?
Is he being honest?
Is he still lying or hiding the truth?

Those are the bigger issues.


Yes, you should have all your questions answered. But, you said you asked the same question 1000 times. That is not getting you anywhere. If you have to ask a question that many times to get him to answer you truthfully, is he a man you even want to deal with in the future?

Have him write out the affair in detail and in sequence. All at one sitting.
Then, after that is in your hand, schedule a polygraph. Find out if he was/is hiding anything.
If he refuses these requests, or becomes angry with you, he's not worth your spit.

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Yes what Pep said.

Schedule a polygraph. Polygraph Testing


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I am unsure if I need a full STD testing. I know I need HPV, I have been tested for that once before routine and was normal.. I waited cause he got tested it was totally clean with it all.. and I have proof of that.
You can be sure of being clean of STDs only if you personally know the sexual history of every skank your H has been with. And every guy THEY have been with. And every skank THEY have been with...and so on.

Please get tested.

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Ok then I will. It will be sad to say I need , I have been going to same dr, since I had my son believe it or not. I suppose they are some what use to this? I live in a small town ..
Your doctor has seen this many times. I felt the same way. I told him what my situation was, and he immediately suggested tests for me to consider.

He also gave me a prescription for an anti-depressant. I didn't even know that I might need one. HE knew.


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You have to understand he has been the most person husband any woman could ever ask for
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Originally Posted by nikkin
For anyone that has read my story, does it sound like my husband had more than a sexual ..physical affair with the first prostitute? I have just learned they exchanged cards once as well. Though he says he forgets what holiday it was for.

I also just found out yesterday.. (after going to his office and checking the records for the business credit card), that he did indeed have this hooker with him in a hotel room the first night in FL.

He "claims" she had just ended heroin the day before, (though she had told him she was clean for a while), and she was taking a pill to detox from it.. When they landed, he claims her father could not pick her up, and he would have to take her up to Orlando..from West Palm Beach. She did not have enough of this pill, and while taking it she was going through bad withdrawl symptoms , and wanted him to get a room for the night. He "claims" they slept in seperate beds..and nothing happened, cause he said it really could not, not in the state she was in. Next morning dropped her off at her father's , and he headed back to WPB for his vacation.

I have asked him this very question a 1000 times, and he alwayss said her father was there at airport to pick her up.

Then since I went crazy after finding this out, he took out Viagra he purchased from INDIA!!! LOL of all placessss.. and I said what is that for , and he was he got it a year ago, just in case I wanted sex , when he had just had it with a hooker. I think he lost his mind.

Then he also finally confessed his so called friend and him , went to strip clubs often together as a team. What a team two old men.. acting like morons.
And he probably hasn't told you the half of it. If you really want to keep this hound dog, I would strongly, STRONGLY suggest that you require a polygraph to find out what he's really been up to. I have never seen another poster I would suggest this so strongly to. frown


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Does this mean I should not ask, seek answers any longer? It has been 2 and 1/2 months. I am sad that there were lies to answers he swore were the truth, even small things that just did not seem to be needed to be lied to. One was he said he always was at a hotel with her, til the other night he said at her apartment once, the first time. I asked why would you lie about something like that.. It matter not at all to me.. where he had sex with her as long as not at our house, or our lake house! He said he thought I would think they were closer if he said it.. but IF it was the first time.. why would they be closer??? odd.. Maybe I just answered the question myself.. her apt was not the first time.. but later.
I struck everything that is probably based in lies, and is irrelevant right now.

PLEASE DEMAND THAT HE SUBMIT TO A POLYGRAPH.

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So my piece of crap husband comes home tonight after a long night with his Lion's Club , and I say he may just need to end this.. club cause I am tired of it, ie 4 nts away from home to tend to the silly potato pancakes..etc. .. and he says to me.. "make a list of what you want me to end, and I will let you know what is worth it".. meaning me or his clubs.. I said to him without me "outing" him he would have NO CLUBSSSSS.. I am soo madddddd.. He said he is not going to give into my unreasonable demands..If anyone can go back to read what he has put me through .. (he is 53, been in 2 affairs with hookers, one that was only 23! , and he only ended it all cause it all got messy with her being on heroin, second one not sure it would have ever ended to be honest.. unless he was caught cause his first hooker kept calling his cell from jail, and i just happend to catch it, and would not let go. He supposly is reading "His Needs, Her Needs" and has marked it his yellow highlighter, and I loveee the part in the looks department where he put marks.. I was at my ideal weight before he had his hookers.. I have taken on maybe 20 lbs since. I was very careful in that chapter not to hurt his feelings, put yet didn't matter to him what he highlighted. He is balding, hunched over a bit, more hair on his back than his total head,people have said he looks like he is 60 instead of 53, and he has the nerveee to mark anything in that section.

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Originally Posted by nikkin
So my piece of crap husband comes home tonight after a long night with his Lion's Club , and I say he may just need to end this.. club cause I am tired of it, ie 4 nts away from home to tend to the silly potato pancakes..etc. .. and he says to me.. "make a list of what you want me to end, and I will let you know what is worth it".. meaning me or his clubs.. I said to him without me "outing" him he would have NO CLUBSSSSS.. I am soo madddddd.. He said he is not going to give into my unreasonable demands..If anyone can go back to read what he has put me through .. (he is 53, been in 2 affairs with hookers, one that was only 23! , and he only ended it all cause it all got messy with her being on heroin, second one not sure it would have ever ended to be honest.. unless he was caught cause his first hooker kept calling his cell from jail, and i just happend to catch it, and would not let go. He supposly is reading "His Needs, Her Needs" and has marked it his yellow highlighter, and I loveee the part in the looks department where he put marks.. I was at my ideal weight before he had his hookers.. I have taken on maybe 20 lbs since. I was very careful in that chapter not to hurt his feelings, put yet didn't matter to him what he highlighted. He is balding, hunched over a bit, more hair on his back than his total head,people have said he looks like he is 60 instead of 53, and he has the nerveee to mark anything in that section.
nikkin,

Could you please hit notify and ask the mods to merge your threads?

I will go back and read your other thread to catch myself up. Hang in there..


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Did you ever have him take a polygraph like many posters suggested?

Did you ever get in and get your STD tests?

Who was his affairs exposed to?


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He had STD testing in April, his sex ended in March, I get tested next week .. Only preson that knows is my sister, and our son.. We never did a polygraph test , though he did come home one day saying lets do that cause I found out he had a facebook account, he never knew he had to check, and see if he could find out anything on his first hooker.. /stripper/23/heroin addict! He is that stupid though, and nothing was ever done on his facebook account.. so I believe him on that part.

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Originally Posted by nikkin
He had STD testing in April, his sex ended in March, I get tested next week .. Only preson that knows is my sister, and our son.. We never did a polygraph test , though he did come home one day saying lets do that cause I found out he had a facebook account, he never knew he had to check, and see if he could find out anything on his first hooker.. /stripper/23/heroin addict! He is that stupid though, and nothing was ever done on his facebook account.. so I believe him on that part.

So you need to expose. When will you be doing this?

Also you need to schedule the poly. When can you do this?


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Thanks for your help . Ok so he said ok to a lie detector test. Well he was real denfensive about it, cost wise etc. And I said I won't have to ask him any more questions. I won't be over this .. hurt/anger..but at least no more of the same questions. I said we will drive in two different cars, and if he lied about anything he has told me, I drive home, and he is no longer welcome here.

My big question is what do I ask?
1. Time this started,
2. if there were only two women,
3. was it for 1 1/2 years.
4. Did he always use a condom with woman #1 for sex, (He claims he didn't once for oral sex with both women, once).
5. Did he ever take #1 out to lunch some where. He says he took food to hotel, and wine. (But claims he never took her out.)
6. When he spoke of getting a Vascetomy maybe a year ago now, I looked at him like he had to two heads.. I am going through menopause now, and there is a light at the end of the tunnel as far as being able to have sex without using any type of protection for us.. and I just thought why would you want to now.. was that for his infidelity?
7. Did you help pay for #1 car, insurance-other than the tank of gas you purchased for her?
8. Do I know of all the money that you have given #1
9. Did you ever get sex of any kind at the strip club.
10. Did you go to strip club no more than 6 times, getting just the two numbers.
11. Have you had any contact with girl #1, or 2 since all this ended?

Are these even things I can ask in a lie detector place???
Thanks.

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