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Thanks all for support and tough love. I feel like I am in a fog as well. You are in a fog. But now you've got MB to help you through it.
BH(Me)=40 WXW=38 ILYBNILWY: 8/09 DDAY: 8/31/09 Two boys: 8,7 Divorced 3/23/2011
Don't let your eyes refuse to see. Don't let your ears refuse to hear. Or you ain't never gonna shake this sense of sadness. --Ray Lamontagne
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TE beat me to it...
yes, BS in a fog as well...MB program is the way out...
(BTW -- NG is correct -- good to get on this sooner rather than later. Take it from a dope like me -- I putzed for 3 months -- 3 freakin' months!!! WTF??? But, I did it, and it worked..I'd like to have those 3 months back, though...)
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BS fog is very common! We remember!
NG is right, you're doing well for your first day.
If she doesnt respond well to exposure, then it would have been hopeless anyway.
People who plan on living a lie (after doing something this horrendous) are not healthy people. A lucky few repent and come around. They are people who value truth above all else.
Exposure is her test.
And we ALL wish we had come here sooner.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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Back to your question, my fear is that once I send this letter there is no turning back. If I find out that my wife has been telling me the truth, I understand it's not likely, but if she has been telling the truth for the last year then this letter will essentially kill our recovery or maybe it will start it. She does not know how to deal with our relationship and that's why i was at this site to find ways to help her cope and work through the issue together. If she is really at that point then sending this letter and having it trace back to me may destroy what little hope she has left or more accurately I have left. This has been an often discussed topic. Dr. Harley says that the main reason for exposure it to kill the A and gain support for the BS.
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In SAA Dr. Harley explains how exposure works and it's effect on the WS and in our case the OM. The book outlines the big picture from how A's start, should end, starting recovery and what it looks like to be fully recovered.
Understanding the entire plan as a whole can help you have more confidence with exposure.
Bravo for not burring your head in the sand and taking a strong stance on this. You won't regret it.
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Back to your question, my fear is that once I send this letter there is no turning back. If I find out that my wife has been telling me the truth, I understand it's not likely, but if she has been telling the truth for the last year then this letter will essentially kill our recovery or maybe it will start it. She does not know how to deal with our relationship and that's why i was at this site to find ways to help her cope and work through the issue together. If she is really at that point then sending this letter and having it trace back to me may destroy what little hope she has left or more accurately I have left. This has been an often discussed topic. Dr. Harley says that the main reason for exposure it to kill the A and gain support for the BS. He adds that public accountability is the first step to redemption for the WS. It's a shameful dark secret to have hurt so many. Better to clean out the wound and begin again.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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As my W's aunt said to her after exposure as W was going bat shxx:
"If you hadn't done something that required BS's exposure, there would've been nothing to expose. Should've thought about that before..."
A heapful of that, and you learn who is willing to stand up for marriage.
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All, took another step at lunch today. I told my Father. I knew if I did that then I wouldn't be able to chicken out with moving forward and taking control of my life. He didn't freak out. I should have known since I seem to be a carbon copy of the man without the current infidelity stuff. It felt good. I told him everything and even told him about my plan to expose the OM and my wife at their job. He said it was a good idea if I wanted to do it. He did make a suggestion. I told him about my reluctance and he said if that's the case then I should tell her I was going to do it and let the chips fall where they may. She is going to be pissed or react when she found out I did it whether I told her up front or not. So if I wanted to tell her then tell her and do it. He also stated that since the OM was the Supervisor he would be the one in the most hot water.
So onward I go. I appreciate the nudging, prodding, and kicks in the face from all of you. However it felt good to hear someone in my family actually say that life doesn't end because of this.
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Don't tell her up front.
She may warn OM or go nuts on you.
It's better to stand up for yourself after the fact than to have her go nuts on you and THEN...expose it anyway right in her face. She'll take it worse.
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Will do. No forwarning. thanks.
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All, took another step at lunch today. I told my Father. I knew if I did that then I wouldn't be able to chicken out with moving forward and taking control of my life. Hey man, this is what this is about. Taking control of your life. You are letting her know you'd like her to be a part of your life and the rules for that to happen. At the same time you are preparing yourself for any eventuality. The MB playbook best prepares BOTH of you for whatever becomes the end result. It give the BS the dignity and strength that you and I know was stripped from us by the one supposedly closest to us. There is clear path to follow the starts with a mass exposure. Once you get through that there is a lot more. Take this time to get yourself a checkup with the Dr. Get anti depressants or anti anxiety if you feeling iffy. The Dr here on MB suggests them if your doc feels it may help. Excercise. Do for you. Now is the time.
Life keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping into the fuuuu-ture.
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NO forewarning...all SHOCK and AWE, brother...
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I would imagine you composed the letter in a computer file. Start putting together a concurrent exposure e-mail to reach the list below with the original letter file to the State folks as an attachment. This e-mail is to inform the addressees of what has been going on, what you are doing to fight it, and that you would ask their help to direct WW back away from the "dark side".
The list of folks this should be sent to includes:
- her entire family (including granny) - all her current friends - her college friends - any relevant co-workers (Won't they be pleased to finally understand why they have not been progressing?) - her hairdresser, clergy, book-club colleagues, etc, etc - all your family
Time the e-transmission to coincide with Department Director opening his mail.
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Maybenot, the affair should be exposed REGARDLESS of its current status. I do believe the affair is still active, but even if it were not, it has needs to be exposed at work so one of them has a motivation to leave that job. Your family - including children - should all be told for the reasons I gave above. The things your wife says, though, are CLASSIC statements of a WW who is in an affair.
Please go forward and expose this affair everywhere. You have nothing to lose because you have already lost your marriage. This might be your only chance to save your marriage.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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O I would imagine you composed the letter in a computer file. Start putting together a concurrent exposure e-mail to reach the list below with the original letter file to the State folks as an attachment. This e-mail is to inform the addressees of what has been going on, what you are doing to fight it, and that you would ask their help to direct WW back away from the "dark side".
The list of folks this should be sent to includes:
- her entire family (including granny) - all her current friends - her college friends - any relevant co-workers (Won't they be pleased to finally understand why they have not been progressing?) - her hairdresser, clergy, book-club colleagues, etc, etc - all your family
Time the e-transmission to coincide with Department Director opening his mail. This strategy will get you our biggest bang for your buck.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Never forewarn exposure!!!!
Incredibly bad idea!
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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Nobody becomes repentant and shamed BEFORE exposure. Shell be furious, slander you to the targets, get her story ready and warn her lover to do the same.
Some repantant WWs have joined their spouse in doing a joint exposure or have self exposed. But the remarks your wife makes signify she's deep in the fog and needs shock and awe.
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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You do understand that she is supposed to be angry? After exposure? That's all part of it. You just shrug and tell her she couldn't seriously expect to lie forever. Be unshakeable and fearless.
If she isn't remorseful after that, she's a lost cause. I don't care how much she's blamed you.
Art of War: when weak appear strong
What would you do if you were not afraid?
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.
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I do believe the affair is still active... Yep. It was probably never inactive at all. Good job on exposing this, Maybe.
Me (BH) FWW Married 2000, DS 8, DD 6, DD 2
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I do believe the affair is still active... Yep. It was probably never inactive at all. Good job on exposing this, Maybe. Lets hope for OP sake ML is wrong. Perhaps wishful thinking of me 
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