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#2673687 10/12/12 05:24 PM
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Al and I have recently gotten engaged.

We won't be getting married for quite a while, but I was curious if Dr. Harley does pre-marital counseling?

We likely won't have the money for it for several months but I still wanted to ask.


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Congratulations!! Dr Harley is not in active practice but his kids might. If I were you, I would get the book, I Promise You. I just looked and it is not for sale here but you can get it on Amazon.com. That is what I gave my son before he got married. here


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optimism and his girlfriend recently had a call with Dr. Harley on the radio program. I would recommend that! Email mbradio@marriagebuilders.com and ask about premarital counseling, and Dr. Harley would probably have a lot of valuable things to say, especially if we can persuade you to go on the show.


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Congratulations KARMAROSE. I'm so happy for you.

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Thanks. We're still a little unsure of what our policy on kids is going to be. He seems to have agreed to one, and one or none would be fine with me.

I just don't want to think that I want one, and then after we're married decide I don't. It's a mix of worry over if I'll be a good parent and worrying about the cost of a child.


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Originally Posted by karmasrose
Thanks. We're still a little unsure of what our policy on kids is going to be. He seems to have agreed to one, and one or none would be fine with me.

I just don't want to think that I want one, and then after we're married decide I don't. It's a mix of worry over if I'll be a good parent and worrying about the cost of a child.
Congrats karma. So happy for you. Have you heard the show with opt and his fiance' NG? They called and talked with the Harleys. It was a really good show.

I can post it for you if you'd like? smile


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Originally Posted by karmasrose
Thanks. We're still a little unsure of what our policy on kids is going to be. He seems to have agreed to one, and one or none would be fine with me.

I just don't want to think that I want one, and then after we're married decide I don't. It's a mix of worry over if I'll be a good parent and worrying about the cost of a child.

This is exactly the kind of situation His Needs Her Needs For Parents addresses. smile


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I think it's great to see that you're actually looking to resolve these sort of issues before jumping into marriage. So many people think that things will just work themselves out, but important things like whether or not to have kids, where you're going to live, and things like that need to be addressed upfront. Sure, some things really do just work themselves out, but other things unfortunately do not. It's better to be upfront and honest in the beginning and make sure you're both on the same page before saying I do.

Good luck with everything, and I hope you have a long and happy marriage!

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Congratulations!!! hug

If you go on the radioshow, please keep us posted.

Likewise about the wedding plans!


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Congratulations!! Dr Harley is not in active practice but his kids might. If I were you, I would get the book, I Promise You. I just looked and it is not for sale here but you can get it on Amazon.com. That is what I gave my son before he got married. here

He talks about his clients on the radio show regularly.

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Thanks for all the well-wishes. Right now I'm not sure we could afford Harley, maybe around the beginning of the year (taxtime). The books would be great.


One year becomes two, two years becomes five, five becomes ten and before you know it, you've wasted your whole life on a problem you can't solve. That's one way to spend your life. -rwinger

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