Hey KL. Have read your thread and seen other posts from you. Thanks for the e-mail to Dr H on the other thread.
How do you feel about Ruby? Do you still contact her as a friend? Or did you decide no contact was best.
This relationship was different for me. From what I witnessed many times was a woman who lives the christian life, Knows her Bible, studies regularly, is involved in church, would unselfishly share what she had if she truely felt a calling to. Very educated yet warm and down to earth. I never felt talked down to. Respectful in our R from a Biblical standpoint-believes God-Man-Woman-Family-Others. Very much believes a man is the leader of the family and household. Much like what is described in the book Tender Warrior.
This just blew me away throughout our whole relationship. About 5 years ago I went back to church. This was nearing the end of my M. I would hear the pastor referance things like this about M'd people but with the deep doo doo I was in could not even fathom anyone really living that way.
I really grew to love and respect her for upholding what she believes in. Our conversations would run deep on just about any subject. Sexual abstinance was agreed upon using what the Bible says. Even without the sexual aspect of the R in my whole life the only experience that out did the intamacy I experienced with Ruby was witnessing the birth of my son and daughter with XW.
Ruby took me to a new level of intamacy that was definately lacking in my M.
Over the past year I still see my IC. She worked under Dr H for 7 years and is very familiar with MB's principles. She has kept cautioning me about going to fast. Going too far and the affect of our R to surrounding family and friends. When her grandchild started calling me grandpa this really hit home. Even this 4 year old was being affected. I know adults can deal with R but how do young children. nESRE either s..t or get off the pot.
Even with all we experienced throughout the last year I have to see and experience if there are more out there similar to Ruby. Until I do that (and also some self reflection) I know I would always wonder and second guess. I know when I truely decide to M again I do not want any reservations or lingering doubts present.
At this point we are having no real contact. I had some large items (boat/fish house) at her house. We agreed to times as to pick them up. She did not want to be there. Today I got the last item and along with it was every item I gave her over the last year. A necklace/watch/a painting she had always admired/ cards/letters/every small item I ever gave her.
The note on the box
nESRE
If God means for any of these things to come back to me...they will...differently.
Otherwise it was never meant to be.
Be safe (referance to me from earlier in the R when I would not say ILY to her)
Giving your last year back to you...Your choice to do with it what you want...
God Bless
Ruby
I never asked her for anything back and actually at this time feel somewhat offended. I gave these items from how/what I felt at the time. Does this mean my feelings can be discounted and were not real at the time of giving? A bit confused by this. I understand her being hurt and not wanting reminders. Does our time together mean nothing good happened?
Maybe a female POV on this?
At this point I am leaning on very limited contact for a while. We live 60 miles apart so in person running into each other probably won't happen.
Regarding your question, I'm sort of like you in not knowing how to implement the date-30-people rule. A few thoughts I've had about that:
With second marriages we probably do know more about needs compared to younger first marriages. 30 people in a year would be extremely hard for me also although should a person really be motivated to get married again probably way more motivation. If it was set as a goal probably easily achievable.
I have a hard time casually dating several different people. When I meet someone I like, I enjoy exploring the relationship.
I know from before M casually dating was hard. I to would get hung up and explore. This time I will be open and honest with any I date right from the get go that I will be dating others.
If you're like me, I'm sure you have 2nd thoughts about Ruby. She sounds like a fine woman. If I were in your shoes, I'd start dating soon to find out what's out there and how they compare to Ruby.
Ruby is a very good woman. Second guessing is what kept me from breaking it off for about a month. What if she is "the one" and I let her go?
nESRE