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She's at our house with our 3 kids. 16, 15, 12.


Please be patient with my slow post. I'm at work on my phone.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
She's at our house with our 3 kids. 16, 15, 12.


Please be patient with my slow post. I'm at work on my phone.
Ok and you're staying where?

Do your kids now why you're gone?

Did your wife give you any conditions?


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I'm staying at a co workers. I have no family close. The kids know were taking a break. The only condition is I don't initiate contact. I'm supposed to go to the house on Saturday to evaluate where we are. I'm scared to death she's going to say she wants a divorce. I'm not going to try to get her to let me stay because I need more counseling for my controlling behavior. I need to make sure I'm ready


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I'm staying at a co workers. I have no family close. The kids know were taking a break. The only condition is I don't initiate contact. I'm supposed to go to the house on Saturday to evaluate where we are. I'm scared to death she's going to say she wants a divorce. I'm not going to try to get her to let me stay because I need more counseling for my controlling behavior. I need to make sure I'm ready
Do you talk or see your children?

One huge action would be to sit your kids down and tell them the truth. Take responsibility to them.

Do you have AOs? What love busters are you guilty of? What were her complaints of you before this?

This OW was she married? Did you tell her husband?


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Excellent radio clip where Dr. H talks about what a WH should do for his wife to give him another try after his affairs. He explains it like an addict.

Radio Clip on a WH on what to do to get back with his wife 3:50 mark


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I text my kids all the time and my wife is adamant about not telling them about the ow. I'm guilty of every love buster. Her big complaint were the angry outbursts

Not sure what ao's are


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Yes the ow is married but I've no way of getting hold of him.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
Even worse, 2 yrs ago we found out our oldest daughter was being molested by a friend. My wife says I abandoned them by losing myself in work. That's all I did was work. I let her deal with everything.

We've only been separated a few days and I'm having a hard time not finding out how she is or what she's doing.she keeps getting more and more upset with me. Do I stand a chance? Or is it hopeless? I go to the doc for meds tomorrow and later the counselor

Your situation is not hopeless but pushing your wife is not going to help you. You have been having a hard time for a few days....she's been having a hard time for YEARS. Get yourself together and DO things that your wife can SEE which may give her reason to re-consider divorcing you. Words are cheap. Hounding her is not going to win her back, so stop it.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I text my kids all the time and my wife is adamant about not telling them about the ow. I'm guilty of every love buster. Her big complaint were the angry outbursts

Not sure what ao's are
AO=angry outbursts

Are you in an anger management program for this?
Read these.
What to do with An Angry Husband
Anger Mgmt 101

What are your wife's top emotional needs?


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I would say affection and conversation


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Originally Posted by BrainHurts
Excellent radio clip where Dr. H talks about what a WH should do for his wife to give him another try after his affairs. He explains it like an addict.

Radio Clip on a WH on what to do to get back with his wife 3:50 mark
When can you listen to this?


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I listened to it, but my wife seems focused much more on the angry outbursts than the affair. And I'm not sure how to get her to give me another last chance.


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I know I have no right to ask for it, but I pray she can find the energy to try again. And I need to find a way to make permanent changes.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
I know I have no right to ask for it, but I pray she can find the energy to try again. And I need to find a way to make permanent changes.
Have you signed up for an angerbusters program?

Do it, if you really want to show her. Did you listen to the anger mgmt radio clips from Dr. Harley I posted?

Have you read these?
Angry Outbursts #1
Angry Outbursts #2


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Yes I did and I am also in counseling. I can do great for a couple of months then I just slip back into old habits. She has no reason to believe I can change.


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When she decides she wants to discuss us, how can I get her to give me a chance.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
Yes I did and I am also in counseling. I can do great for a couple of months then I just slip back into old habits. She has no reason to believe I can change.
So what's different this time? Why should she believe you this time?


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I know my actions do that, but I'm scared to death I won't get that chance.


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Originally Posted by bnmt
When she decides she wants to discuss us, how can I get her to give me a chance.
You can't.

You can only control you. You have to show her that these changes you're making are for real. If she decides to divorce you, you need to respect her and continue to work on yourself. If you are for real and are finally making the changes for yourself they will stick. You have to do this for yourself and to teach your kids.

Are you?


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Living without her and my kids is definitely an eye opener. I miss them all a lot. I always thought I was strong enough to change on my own. Now I know I'm not. I'm going to counseling and although she is pissed that I ordered the books love busters and his needs her needs i would like to implement them into our marriage.o


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