I think there are LOTS of success stories here and everywhere. It's just that the really successful people probably move on from here and don't continue to post. (I hope to move into that category some day.) I also agree with many here who've said that almost anyone's rebuilding methods can work <B>if</B> both spouses are committed to the rebuilding process. I don't think Harley's methods or anyone else's method <I>can</I> work if either the betrayed or betrayer is not committed to rebuilding.<P>One thing the Harley methods did for us is it opened up our eyes to all the stuff we'd been doing <I>wrong</I> through the years. If we had known then what I know now, none of this would have ever happened. I grow more convinced of that every day.