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#2706839 02/17/13 07:17 AM
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I will be married for approximately 2 years this june. I titled this piece because that's how I ended up in my marriage. It all first started before marriage into play. I just returned from a deployment from Afghanistan and while I was there. I began talking to a old friend of mine that I went to high school with. It was cool for the time being, until something occurred and we were talking, and I made a comment about me liking the women I like to her. At that time it didn't match hers and she thought I was shallow and decided to stop talking to me and sent that message to me by email. So we eventually stopped talking. I returned from overseas and sent her a message on Facebook and we started talking again. Things started off well and then we started dating officially and became committed to one another. Through out that time span from March to June we argued and it always led to her breaking up with me and then me talking to her and she deciding to work on it, that happen about 6 times in that window span. I made mistakes that could have led her up to breaking up but why most that be the first response to her answers when things go off course a bit. Then came the ULTIMATUM a few week after she wanted to break up/make up she said if you want this relationship I can't be with you unless you MARRY ME? I know I mentioned to her that I would marry her but I didn't want to rush things because I recently divorced a year ago but did that stop her no it didn't. Everything came to my mind I have someone that could be possibly be a mother to my kids just as I would want a mother to be to her kids, I was more acceptable to this because my children would have a women in their lives since their mother wasn't(different story another post & day). So me thinking of my children and little about me I decided to go ahead for my children sake. And yes, my wife today thinks I did this for my children and not really out of love and care for her. I only knew her for 3 months and married. And every since the marriage divorce has came up so many times, children issues, communication, sex, the whole nine yards surrounding the ideal topics of marriage. I feel now obligated to stay and make sure she takes care of herself and the kids not mine, because i still give the love and attention they need and since I do that she doesn't get that much from me. But i know and feel in my heart they need it more right now more than she does and she may not think so. We had a argument 3 weeks ago and she wanted a divorce my ex was in town to be with my son during his surgery and all this jealous, drama and insane behavior came about and what happened divorce came up and I got so mad and called her name and was fine with the divorce idea. I have recently been giving off this reluctant attitude and to being disrespectful and caring but right now all I think about is divorce now and it hasn't stopped. This is just a snippet of somethings I have been going through over the last 2 years, yes a lot and I have my towel in hand and ready to divorce. Been researching the best ways to do so and keep all the children with minimal hurt and awkwardness.

Please respond, and you have any questions post them and I will reply.

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Minimal hurt and awkwardness for the children means that you read a lot about how marriage works first. Read His Needs/Her Needs by Dr. Harley. This is a summary of the book http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi3300_needs.html

and Lovebusters
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi3400_lovebust.html

Study the concept of the Love Bank.
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi3200_love.html

All of the links I posted for you are quite eye opening about how love works. If you read them, you will have many moments of epiphany.

Figure out how to communicate with a wife and then ultimately, if she does not get her own side of the relationship functioning better......ultimately you separate.

Children need adults to do things in a logical manner to model behavior for them.

You are hot to divorce her right now because you have not met each others most important emotional needs and have been lovebusting each other and her account in YOUR love bank is quite low. It CAN be changed for the better with work. That work would be you studying up on a better way to be married and for her to join you in that.








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Originally Posted by JIFE1982
I will be married for approximately 2 years this june. I titled this piece because that's how I ended up in my marriage.

It all first started before marriage into play. I just returned from a deployment from Afghanistan and while I was there. I began talking to a old friend of mine that I went to high school with. It was cool for the time being, until something occurred and we were talking, and I made a comment about me liking the women I like to her. At that time it didn't match hers and she thought I was shallow and decided to stop talking to me and sent that message to me by email. So we eventually stopped talking.

I returned from overseas and sent her a message on Facebook and we started talking again. Things started off well and then we started dating officially and became committed to one another.

Through out that time span from March to June we argued and it always led to her breaking up with me and then me talking to her and she deciding to work on it, that happen about 6 times in that window span.

I made mistakes that could have led her up to breaking up but why most that be the first response to her answers when things go off course a bit.

Then came the ULTIMATUM a few week after she wanted to break up/make up she said if you want this relationship I can't be with you unless you MARRY ME? I know I mentioned to her that I would marry her but I didn't want to rush things because I recently divorced a year ago but did that stop her no it didn't.

Everything came to my mind I have someone that could be possibly be a mother to my kids just as I would want a mother to be to her kids, I was more acceptable to this because my children would have a women in their lives since their mother wasn't(different story another post & day).

So me thinking of my children and little about me I decided to go ahead for my children sake.

And yes, my wife today thinks I did this for my children and not really out of love and care for her. I only knew her for 3 months and married.

And every since the marriage divorce has came up so many times, children issues, communication, sex, the whole nine yards surrounding the ideal topics of marriage.

I feel now obligated to stay and make sure she takes care of herself and the kids not mine, because i still give the love and attention they need and since I do that she doesn't get that much from me.

But i know and feel in my heart they need it more right now more than she does and she may not think so.

We had a argument 3 weeks ago and she wanted a divorce my ex was in town to be with my son during his surgery and all this jealous, drama and insane behavior came about and what happened divorce came up and I got so mad and called her name and was fine with the divorce idea.

I have recently been giving off this reluctant attitude and to being disrespectful and caring but right now all I think about is divorce now and it hasn't stopped.

This is just a snippet of somethings I have been going through over the last 2 years, yes a lot and I have my towel in hand and ready to divorce. Been researching the best ways to do so and keep all the children with minimal hurt and awkwardness.

Please respond, and you have any questions post them and I will reply.

Without paragraphs, your post was impossible to understand.
Please use paragraphs in the future.

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No, you have not earned a divorce. You have done nothing to effectively work on your marriage.

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Everything came to my mind I have someone that could be possibly be a mother to my kids just as I would want a mother to be to her kids, I was more acceptable to this because my children would have a women in their lives since their mother wasn't

You married in total ignorance of what her needs were. And, you seems to not care what her needs are.

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So me thinking of my children and little about me I decided to go ahead for my children sake.

This is not entirely truthful, sir. You married her so she could babysit. That is for your sake. It was certainly not to meet the obligations inherent in being an outstanding husband.

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And yes, my wife today thinks I did this for my children and not really out of love and care for her.

She is not wrong in her thinking, is she?

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I only knew her for 3 months and married.

Well, too late. You're married almost two years. Time to make the necessary changes to love & support your wife the way you ought to have been doing from the start.
Start now.

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I feel now obligated to stay and make sure she takes care of herself and the kids not mine, because i still give the love and attention they need and since I do that she doesn't get that much from me.

You took a vow. Your honor and your integrity depend on how you honor your vow.
Your wife is a human being and she deserves more than what you have given her thus far.

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But i know and feel in my heart they need it more right now more than she does and she may not think so.

You know in your heart? Really? You are feeling things. That does not make them facts. Tell me what your brain KNOWS. Your heart FEELS.
What your brain should know is that your children do not need a home filled with drama and chaos, and the stress of a second divorce.
What your brain should know is that what your children need is a father who is a fine roll model of a stand-up guy who treats his wife with love and care.
Your children need you to be an example of how a man treats a woman. A husband who does not use his wife as a maid/housekeeper/nanny and expect her to be happy without his love/care/respect.

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I have recently been giving off this reluctant attitude and to being disrespectful and caring but right now all I think about is divorce now and it hasn't stopped.

Because you don't know how else to solve this problem. Tell me.... Are you too lazy to learn how to have a happy marriage? A marriage where both of you treat each other with love and kindness? I hope your response is; "Hell no! I'm not too lazy to learn how to turn this thing around." I hope you say; "Tell me where to start."

But, I won't waste my time if what you want is the easy way out. That might just be your comfortable pattern.

Look at this.

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Freeloader is unwilling to put much effort into the care of his or her partner in a romantic relationship. He or she does only what comes naturally and expects only what comes naturally. It's like a person who tries to live in a house without paying rent or doing anything to improve it unless the person is in the mood to do so.

Renter is willing to provide limited care as long as it's in his or her best interest. The romantic relationship is considered tentative, so the care is viewed as short-term. It's like a person who rents a house and is willing to stay as long as the conditions seem fair, or until he or she finds something better. The person is willing to pay reasonable rent and keep the house clean but is not willing to make repairs or improvements. It's the landlord's job to keep the place attractive enough for the renter to stay and continue paying rent.

Buyer is willing to demonstrate an extraordinary sense of care by making permanent changes in his or her own behavior and lifestyle to make the romantic relationship mutually fulfilling. Solutions to problems are long-term solutions and must work well for both partners because the romantic relationship is viewed as exclusive and permanent. It's like a person who buys a house for life with a willingness to make repairs that accomodate changing needs, painting the walls, installing new carper, replacing the roof, and even doinf some remodeling so that it can be comfortable and useful.

You refuse to make deposits into your wife's Love Bank, and then wonder why she often brings up divorce??? Really? You have not given her what she needs to desire to stay.

The above is a quote from one of Dr. Harley's excellent books.
You, sir, are a Freeloader.
Are you ready to make a change?

***LINK*** to the Love Bank

If you stay on MB you will become a better man.
Or, you will remain a Freeloader.






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Make that a role model. Not a roll model. Time to edit expired.

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JIFE1982, I think I heard your question answered on the radio yesterday. What do you think of Dr. Harley's advice?

Would love to hear an update.


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Originally Posted by Pepperband
Make that a role model. Not a roll model. Time to edit expired.


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