I looked at the bestbuy around here and they did no have any trackers. I did recieve the tracker today though, got it charged and slipped it into her car this evening. It is a live tracker and says it will go 5 days between charges.

The cell phone is a no go as it is a work cell phone that she is constanty using and i cant get near it as she basically sleeps with it. Home phone does not get used by her but i did check the bills anyway and there is nothing there.

Hopefully I will get something from the tracker as it seems lke the best method to find out about these really late nights.

Dad, how about slipping that VAR into a hidey-hole somewhere in her car? You may get more intel there instead of trying to work around the fan in the bedroom. The chance is very good that she will talk on her cell phone in what she considers the privacy of her car.

Good idea, thanks I may try that. The tough thing with the recorder is it kills its batteries in 24hrs. But perhaps that is because of the fan and in the car perhaps it will go a bit further on a pair of batteries.

Read this for ideas on where to put the recorder.
Recording Equipment

Just be prepared for what you are going to hear on that VAR.
You may want someone else listen to it first, as it will be potentially sickening.
I could only listen to about 5 min and almost threw up.

I wedged a VAR in the sunroof channel of my ex-WW car. I got hours of tape, listened to 5 min.

Ok it looks like the gps tracker is revealing things big time on its first night. All day it showed her to be at work locations. Then about 5:30 pm she went "off the grid" 2 hours at what looked like (from the satalite pic to be a restaraunt in a town not anywhere near any of the locations of the chain she works for. Then she left there and now gps shows her to be in the parking lot of the park where we met. grrrrr. But why would she be sitting in a park at nght in the pouring rain? GPS was totally accurate all day so i would think it is still, yes?

Now what i most wat to do is confront her with this when she gets home i am so pissed right now. Please help convince me i need to wait to gather more nights of info before confronting this.

You know what really pisses me off. Fine if she doesn't want to spend any time with me. But how bout our daughter. I basically put her to bed solo 6 out of 7 nghts most weeks. Sometimes my daughter goes 2 days witout seeing her mother.


on an urelated note my damn computer keeps not having random letters i type appear an it is REALLLY starting to piss me off. Anyone else ever have this occur?

DAD,

Don't expose yet. Stay cool and get a little more evidence. Let the VAR do its job. This is just the beginning of a long road ahead, but you can do this.

I know you are angry now but take deep breaths and try to control your emotions. Have you by chance read Florida Guys posts. For some reason I see similarities between the two of you. It could be that you are both BH's but I feel that you both could learn from each other and use each others experiences to help each other out.

You can do this and are doing it for you your daughter.

Listen to me, Dad: when she gets home, YOU SAY NOTHING!! Do you hear me? Here's what you're going to get if you can't contain yourself:

Dad: Where the hell have you been!? I know for a fact that you were at a restaurant miles away from your job!
WW (immediately realizing that Dad is tracking her somehow): Why, I just went to El Cid to meet a girlfriend after work! What, are you tracking me now?!?!?!? (Bulleye's hit on WW's part)

Dad (trying to recover the upper hand): Oh, yeah, sure, and then you go sit in a parking lot for hours??? Couldn't you find your 'friend'???
WW (now sure that Dad IS tracking her, so she'd better heel toward the facts as much as possible): Yes. You caught me. I WAS sitting in a parking lot. At the park where we first met!I was remembering a time when we actually HAD something between us...blah blah blah..."

And you just blew your cover, over...what? NOTHING. So you need to keep your mouth shut and be at your absolute best! Do NOT allow your emotions to blow your snooping before you can even find solid information!

ETA: And, even more critical: you have just made it clear to her that you are tracking her somehow. She will immediately go farther undercover to avoid your snooping. Don't shoot yourself in the foot, Dad!

Dad102,

She likely goes to that same park every time, show up there tap on the car window, when they get their clothes on bring your daughter over to the car window. Have her ask her Mother what she is doing.

Invite the OM wife.

You don't want to allow them to go underground where this affair can smoulder for years, with OM promising to be with your WW "someday". So do not bust this open until you are ready with full exposure on OM and WW. Then hit like blitzkriege.


God Bless
Gamma

thank you fifteen and marital you are both so right and i needed to hear it.

It the wayward's way, Dad. They are terrible parents when they are wayward. Remember that. Your WW is an addict right now. Her priority is not with her family.

Try rebooting your machine

I like the way you think, Gamma.

Dad, this is valuable intel. I don't want you to blow a gasket, but realize this: you've just uncovered one of their makeout spots. My FWH and his ho used to have the same MO: meet at a restaurant for 1-2 beers, then it was off to a deserted parking spot.

But keep your cool about this! Tuck this info away, you will need it. Open your mouth now, and you'll gain nothing but a WW who knows you're on to her and will be more careful next time. You don't want her to be careful - you want her to get sloppy! And she will if she thinks she's getting this past you.

DAD,

I can truly vouch for what MB said about Waywards. They don't think about their actions. In fact, your foggy mind actually thinks that kids will be better off by your decision and will benefit in the long run and eventually love your AF.

It does not seem real to me today, but I thought like this. My AP and I actually thought that we could/would be one big happy family. I look back now and feel disgusted and stupid knowing that I thought like this. Your wife however is in this mindset and you can't take anything see says or does personally.

When you are angry, come on here and vent. Think everything through and don't let your emotions that are in overdrive right now, control you actions.

Good points all. Thank you Gamma. Ohh how i would love to show up in that parking lt like that.

You are right on gathering more info. I mean if I have disovered all this with the GPS on the first night of use it should not take long to blow the lid off this

Secretly document everything you find as well.

YES!
My wife disappeared for months at a time.
Document everything. If you want to divorce now is the time strategically speaking. Courts look down upon a mother leaving the home for days

Thank you for the insight fifteen. That must be why she has exposed our daughter to time with this guy on more than one occasion, thinking they will be one happy future family?

As to thinking things through thankfully i tend to be a very logical cotrolled type person. I will admit though that this is testing those traits.

I think for some reason seeing the proof seems to get me more upset even though i really already knew it.

been doing that

Call this trait up from within yourself and arm yourself, Dad.

If you can't stand to look at her without blowing up, tell her you're not feeling well and go to bed.