Do not talk divorce with her. Period.

When do you intend to begin Plan A?

Yeah, I will get the money together some how. If she doesn't want to donut than I guess that alone will be a confession. Today I gave up all accounts that I have that didn't include my wife just as a way to show her I'm not hiding anything. I will admit something doesn't seem right with that Twitter and the hidden email which I know she used to use in the past. She also made it clear that she is ok with a divorce.

I'm not sure by what you mean by begin plan A?

I never did this in the first place as we began reconciliation before we found this forum. Do you think I need to go to that?

She also made it clear that she is ok with a divorce.

Dude, if you were surprised by this admission on her part....well, you would be the only one posting here who was!

She sets EPs....and breaks them without care! ***EDIT***

She knows you are highly financially sensitive....so blows hundreds of dollars in a casino!

She accuses you of the most heinous violations (I THINK she forgot consorting with the devil)....and then pops up on her thread weeping and wailing!

She PROMISES you have the truth...and you discover more...and she PROMISES this time it's all out....and you say "polygraph"...and she refuses!

She not only would "have no problem" with a divorce, she very probably imagines she wants one.

Was she always this deceitful, selfish, and dismissive of you and your marriage? Had she changed over time (I mean before hooking up with POSOM)?

RNR-

The actions of your WW are very disturbing at this stage. Not the actions of a repentant WS wanting to heal this M. She does not sound serious. At least she is in conflict...

As mentioned, a Polygraph has to happen now. This week. You need to know what is going on and if she is still in contact with the OM.

Second, my man, what�s up with the massively flimsy EP's ***EDIT*** Dude�so what you are saying is yeah, go ahead and do whatever you want�I don�t care.. ***EDIT*** Time to grow a pair my man.

Why are you 2 still fighting? Questions you have been posting should never occur if you are using the POJA and PORH. Neither of you should be doing anything without you both being in agreement!

Finally, what changes are you making in YOU to be the husband she has always wanted?? What is HER motivation to stay with you if you are not showing her the future will be different from the past? Are you focusing on her EN�s? Eliminating all LB�s?

Try reading SAA or LB or HNHN together in the evening out loud and discussing things. Is she letting you meet any of her needs?

Are you scheduling 20-25hrs/wk of UA??

GET WITH THE PROGRAM AND SAVE YOUR M!!!

We will save it. I know we will, I may be looking at things that aren't there even though there are things that I question sometimes. She said she will do a polygraph.

You definitely need to use parts of plan A:

Make love bank deposits (she will change as your balance in her love bank rises)

Avoid love bank withdrawals (you're already working on eliminating the anger, for example)

Plan A Stick: make respectful complaints. Example: "It bothers me for you to have a twitter account. I'm not enthusiastic about that."

Me and my wife have decided that we are going to give up the iPhones and get dummy phones.

Good. You can probably sell the iPhones for a good price.

Who here has a Twitter account? When you signed up did you have to go into your email and click a verification link to activate the account? My wife signed up and used our sons email which is an email I have seen her use over the years. She said she doesn't know the password and didn't have to click any verification link. I signe up with a dummy account and I had to go into my email and click a link. This just doesn't make sence to me?

How's the polygraph coming?
How's the UA? How many hours are you getting?
How are the lovebusters?

This just doesn't make sense to me?

Yes it does. You are just hoping against rational hope that she is not again (still?) lying to you about her ongoing expeditions to break the EPs to which she supposedly agreed.

Ask your son to forward to you the "Welcome" message he would have gotten!

I am fairly confident that my wife is in this for real and you guys may be wrong. Maybe just paranoia on my part.

So ...
How's the polygraph coming?
How's the UA? How many hours are you getting?
How are the lovebusters?

Don't let it distract you from doing everything that needs to be done.

Dr. Harley said for you guys to feel free to email him and Joyce - do it regularly! Get some traction going and some improvement, here.

Get that polygraph done for your peace of mind. (There is a reason my wife keeps asking you about this. I notice you haven't answered...)

My wife was the one who actually looked into the polygraph, I saw it on her phone last night when she wasn't looking. We just need to come up with the money. We are going to spend more time together, my wife hasn't been spending much with me the past few days she's been upset and our daughter takes a huge chunk of time also. The lovebusters are still there but we can recognize them now and control them better

Maybe just paranoia on my part.

My Psych 101 professor made the observation that paranoia is only
legitimately discussed in the past tense; you know, in those rare
cases that play out that there really was nobody out to get you!

The polygraph needs to be done ASAP. It will either confirm your fears, or give you the peace of mind that you need.

Make UA a priority over your daughter. You will need to schedule this time every week. Your daughter will benefit from her parents having a recovered marriage.

And keep working on the lovebusters until they are ELIMINATED not just CONTROLLED. Do you have the book "Lovebusters" yet?

I've been textin back an forth with my wife and things have gotten a little out if hand. Yesterday she suddenly receive a text that basically said "were watching you" from a number with the same area code as her Boyfriend. She said she had no idea who it was and showed me the text. Today I told her that I wanted her to change her number again. At first she didn't want to but then she tried and was unsuccessful. She is now demanding that we send her for a polygraph right away even though we are on the virge of losin everything financially. She told me that it will be done right away and if I am not over everything once it is done she wants a divorce? I don't know what to say, I have need suspecting that she may be trying to make me lose everything financially, and now instead of payin or my truck, which is 4 months behind in payments she says we have to do this now? I sent an email to Dr. Harley more than a week ago and he hasn't replie to me. I don't know if my wife saw it and erased it as we share the email account. Maybe e just forgot?