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I'm in a situation that I not finding much reading on. My husband of 11 years was caught in an affair with our neighbor. He like most of our neighbors is retired. I am 9 years younger than he. Our children (we each had 4 from previous marriages) are grown and all live on their own, so children are not in the home. Its just he and I. I am devastated by the affair. He will not agree to discuss any of the affair. He says it is over, intercourse did not happen (although he said they came close) I don't believe him. He says he never wants to discuss this again. He says he loves me and is sorry for what he's done. It has been 7 months, my trust is gone, we haven't talked about the affair. I still bring it up but he won't talk. Part of my insecurities is that she lives two houses from us. We live on a dead end street, I have to drive by her house a minimum of 2x daily. when I look out my living room window or go out the back door her house is in my face, when I leave for work often times she is out in her yard. My husband is home all day with that same view. We attend church and are Christian people. We believe the Good Lord will get us through this but I can't stop the sadness I'm faced with every day. I check the phone usage daily. He once told me to grow up and quit acting like a child. What can I do to make him talk about this. Right now our finances are such that we would not profit enough to sell and buy a new home. I don't know where to turn. I don't want our marriage to end but I cant go on like this. The sadness I'm feeling is unbearable. Please Help!
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Em, welcome to Marriage Builders. I am very sorry for the reasons that brought you here. There is a very narrow path to recovery and unfortunately you are not on that road. You are discovering first hand that it is impossible to recover by living next to the affair partner. That is like living next door to your rapist. So one of the first steps would have to be moving. Has the affair been exposed to everyone? Is the OW married? Please read through this article by Dr Harley, clinical psychologist and founder of marriage Builders: "The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide.
I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail.
The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy.
This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted.
An analysis of the wayward spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them.
After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance.
Your nightmares are only the tip of the iceberg. They are but a small reflection of the suffering you experienced when you discovered your husband's affair, and the fear you have that the suffering will be repeated. You have no assurance that the affair is over because you don't even know who the other woman is. You are being asked to trust your husband, who has already proven to be untrustworthy. For all you know, he could be working with her, or you could be going to the same church, or she could be your neighbor. And since he won't discuss the details of how the affair took place, you have no assurance that another affair will not take its place.
Infidelity is not something that can be swept under the rug. While those who have affairs want to forget about it and move on, those who are betrayed must take very specific steps before they can fully recover. In your case, those steps have not been taken, and as a result, your fear persists. I will send you a complimentary copy of my book, "Surviving an Affair," if you send me your address. It will describe these two steps to you and provide you with a roadmap toward full recovery. But the path will require full disclosure of all details.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Em, you will destroy your health by staying there in that intolerable situation. Women - especially - suffer psychosomatic illnesses by living like this. You are in a very dangerous place right now that could easily lead to a nervous breakdown.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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No I haven't shared with anyone. I am so afraid that anyone I share with will disrespect him and if we stay together I'm not seeing where that would necessary. The OW is not married, she has been through 3 husbands. 1 of them like my husbands first passed away. He is away right now on a hunting trip. I am tormented daily but it is much worse when he is gone. When he is away my mind won't let me rest. That is how I found you. I have read every book/topic on this issue that I can get my hands on including my bible. God makes the answers seem so simple. Forgive, love and trust in Him. I feel I'm also loosing my faith because I can't stop thinking about this.
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Hi em, welcome to Marriage Builders, but I am so sorry for the reason that brought you here. I also experience worse torment when my husband is away from my sight. Of COURSE we do, we have been traumatized and we don't reallllly know the whole story of what so brutally happened to us, do we? In my own experience, I had to submit to God first and truly know in my heart that I will be protected by God no matter what the outcome of my 32 yr marriage will be. That is what (finally) has started to settle my heart. Trusting in God also means that we trust that He has brought Marriage Builders to us for our benefit. In 1 Peter 3:1-6, Peter states that husbands can be won over without words by the behavior of their wives. I believe that our "behavior" is meant to rightfully include ANYTHING that will protect our marriages. The absolute largest "weapon" that we have in our arsenal is to bring the affair to the light of day. Please read Melody's exposure thread that is linked in her post. Do NOT mention a word of this to your husband, and start planning to expose. Do NOT be select in your exposure. Expose to every single person that the two of you have ever known. Pretend that you are compiling a guest list for the largest party that you've ever had. Plan it out so that you can expose nuclear, far and wide, all at once. He will get angry, he may even tell you that NOW he is leaving you. If you'll read some of the other poster's threads on here, you will see that this is normal and that most wayward spouses are all talk and no action. It is their fog thinking, which unfortunately we also have to endure for now. Exposure is the FIRST step in finally being able to re-build an honest M with your husband. Exposure brings light into the world. Have a read in John 3:21. 
DDays - six months of them THANK YOU God and Marriage Builders. We never knew that it could be this good!
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No I haven't shared with anyone. I am so afraid that anyone I share with will disrespect him and if we stay together I'm not seeing where that would necessary. The OW is not married, she has been through 3 husbands. 1 of them like my husbands first passed away. He is away right now on a hunting trip. I am tormented daily but it is much worse when he is gone. When he is away my mind won't let me rest. That is how I found you. I have read every book/topic on this issue that I can get my hands on including my bible. God makes the answers seem so simple. Forgive, love and trust in Him. I feel I'm also loosing my faith because I can't stop thinking about this. The Bible is very clear about this issue: This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God." ( John 3:19-21) Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. Ephesians 5:11 You hurt your husband in so many ways by offering him fake, unChristian "forgiveness" and by concealing his sin. Your husband is made sick by his sin and offering him forgiveness without repentance hurts him and destroys your marriage. All you have done here is sweep the affair under the rug and it will eventually destroy your mental and physical health and your marriage if you don't address the problem, my friend. You are letting satan win by concealing his sin and misusing the gift of forgiveness. Recovery of your marriage is impossible under these conditions. Your husband will remain wayward and you will crumble under the pressure. Your pain and resentment will get WORSE, not better if you stay on this path. Do you want to save your marriage and set the stage for a happy future with your husband? We can show you how to do that. We can give you the steps to change your life.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Dr Bill Harley, clinical psychologist and founder of Marriage Builders "Exposure is very likely to end the affair, lifting the fog that has overcome the unfaithful spouse, helping him or her become truly repentant and willing to put energy and effort into a full marital recovery. In my experience with thousands of couples who struggle with the fallout of infidelity, exposure has been the single most important first step toward recovery. It not only helps end the affair, but it also provides support to the betrayed spouse, giving him or her stamina to hold out for ultimate recovery." "The reason for the wide exposure is not to hurt the unfaithful spouse, but rather to end the fantasy. Your husband's secret second life made his affair possible, and the more you can to to make it public, the easier it is for him to see the damage he's doing. Keeping it secret does damage, but few know about it. Making it public helps everyone, including the unfaithful spouse and lover, see the affair for what it really is." On the issue of "forgiveness" after an affair: "To make matters worse, whenever a wayward spouse sees me for counseling there is rarely regret and rarely a willingness to compensate the offended spouse. They usually ask to be forgiven, but that doesn't mean he or she is deeply remorseful. It usually means that he or she doesn't want us to bring up the subject anymore, or require a change in behavior. In other words, the wayward spouse wants the pain suffered by the offended spouse to be ignored or forgotten. Like a $10,000 debt, they want it forgiven, and then they want to borrow another $10,000.
I'm in favor of forgiveness in many situations, but this isn't one of them. In the case of infidelity, compensation not only helps the offended spouse overcome the resentment he or she harbors, but the right kind of compensation helps restore the relationship and prevents the painful act from being repeated.
In most cases, an offended spouse would be unwise to forgive the wayward spouse without just compensation. It's like forgiving a friend of the $10,000 he owes you, when it's actually in the friend's best interest to pay you in full because it would teach him how to be more responsible with money." Can't We Just Forgive and Forget? Radio clips of Dr Harley discussing the practice of forgiveness: Part 1 Part 2 Another one here.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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God makes the answers seem so simple. Forgive, love and trust in Him. I feel I'm also loosing my faith because I can't stop thinking about this. Em. I honestly do not think that God wants you to continue to suffer like this and I do not believe that God wants us to just forgive people who have done nothing to EARN forgiveness. What good does that do? I think God has brought you here for a reason. To learn how to help your WH redeem himself and EARN your forgiveness. My FWH also had an affair with a neighbor...so I really emphasize with the depression and despair of allowing OW to spit in your face everyday. You are headed to a nervous breakdown. You will never feel safe where you are now. None of the conditions that allowed the affair to happen have been removed. You need to find the strength to stand up for yourself. Mel is the best. Listen to everything she posts to you. You can do this em.
ME: BW HIM: FWH Married 18 yrs DDay 09/2008 and 12/2008
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