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Originally Posted by repentant_heart
I am listening.
Is your BH in AA?


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Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.



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Originally Posted by repentant_heart
I am listening.

The whole idea of Extraordinary Precautions is to avoid temptation in the first place, as much as is possible. It's like someone who is wanting to lose weight: the first thing a person needs to do who wants to lose weight is to change a lot of their habits. One of those habits starts at the grocery store - they just don't buy the tempting foods in the first place. They don't rely on will power to keep from eating the foods that help them gain weight. They replace the tempting foods with foods that are conducive to losing weight.

That's the idea behind EPs. If a person builds their life and habits to avoid temptation in the first place, not giving opportunity, the odds of being faithful are much higher.

The same with alcoholism. Alcoholics must avoid having access to alcohol for the rest of their lives, because temptation is often just too difficult to resist.

It's much safer for a marriage to be built on the premise that since we're all wired to have affairs, the best way to avoid it is to remove the possibilities of temptation. We are told as Christians to flee from temptation.


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skepticalImho, no one who has garnered an appreciation of what an affair really is would let stand the comment that "an affair saved my marriage."

Now, how one & one's spouse react after an affair? Perhaps that may save a marriage. But the affair itself? Never.

That's not just a splitting of semantic hairs. One doesn't learn anything from an affair that one couldn't have learned in some less selfish way.

If one understood the emotional devastation wrought by infidelity, one would never let stand, on a website devoted to infidelity recovery, the notion that an affair can save a marriage. One would understand that that's too glib of a rhetorical formulation, and marital betrayal too grave a matter, to chance misleading any passers-by, with the notion.

You can modify the subject line, repentant_heart. If you don't, it'll suggest to me that you don't quite appreciate the full scope of that of which you say you've repented. "My affair DIDN'T save my marriage" would be just as compelling a subject line, and would have the additional benefit of being true. It would show that perhaps you get it. The way you've phrased it so far, suggests that you don't quite get it, not all the way.

That's not to say you need to beat yourself up about it further. But for your future & perhaps for that of your marriage, it's important that you understand the affair for what it was, and for what it wasn't.

Think on it, ok?




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My BW: Trust_Will_Come, 52, tall, beautiful & heart of gold
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"I wear the chain I forged in life... I made it link by link, and yard by yard" ~Jacob Marley's ghost, A Christmas Carol
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RH,

He demanded details, explicit details. Time, Date, Name, Number, Address, Employer, Clothes, Cologne, Room Color, Furniture Arangement, Size, Body Position, everything. It was horrible but I created the situation and as such had to deal with it. As soon as I told my husband what I did, he forgave me

Your, perhaps accidental use of radical honesty, has helped your recovery more than you can ever know. If you read the stories here there are so many BHs who never feel they have gotten the whole truth and remain in incomplete marriages for years and years.

The least thing WWs want to talk about is sexual detail, the thing BHs least trust is their WWs descriptions of those details.

The OM btw may be lying to you about not being married, it sounds like you know very little him? Has the OM been exposed to his family, work and etc?

God Bless
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I thank you all for your input. I am beginning to see the error in my thinking. I am so hurt and scared right now. My selfishness has caused great pain. All I want to do is find the closest skyscraper and jump off of it. But I can no longer be selfish and such an act would be the ultimate act of selfishness. Such an act benefits no one. So I will push through for the benefit of everyone who cares about me. This recovery is about me but so much bigger than me. It is about my great grandchildren. If my husband and I split the negative effects will ripple through generations. If we remain unhealthy the same is true. I am committed to restoration and victory. My husband is as well. We CAN do this. We will put our relationship in the hands of God and follow his lead.

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Telling him was physically painful. Now that it is out there can be no surprises unless they are lies. The OM is not married I know this for a fact. I was the only fool with something to lose. I knew he did not have a healthy attachment to me there was no love. We only saw each other twice other than that it was texting and occasional calls.

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How do I delete or edit the original post?

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Originally Posted by repentant_heart
How do I delete or edit the original post?
Use the "notify moderators" button at the bottom of your posting.
Request to change you thread title, but not delete your posting entirely.


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