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Happy new year!I had to change user name from z11 to impss couldn't log in.the info I recieved here I used and have couple of questions.1st the feeling cheated still with me.I got GPS and no signs of lying about were she was only GPS had problem on stormy day showed her driving across river no bridge.I hate being sneaky and wanted find out y I'm feeling cheatin is going on.all red flags are there.I'm convinced she's not Cheating,still have doughts do I need professional help?
I hate to feel this way were is it coming from?I felt completely alone and wondered how could people get threw that betrayal.have learned a lot from this hell ride I've been on and can't trust my [censored] up emotions.

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She very likely is cheating. If a spouse is locking down her phone and hiding things, they have something to hide. I suggest you do a better job of sleuthing and find out who the affair is with. Get her phone and break into to it.


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From reading your other thread, I am pretty sure she is having an affair: http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/u...mp;Words=z11&Search=true#Post2771025


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I prey to God for the truth so i can be set free.I would hope she not and if she is ill have closure to move on.I've worked hard to provide and protect my family and very fortunate not to worry about money.reading all info I see were I messed up.I'm selfish and know money ,house isn't enough...reading about men being nice and helping to get her into the sheets that's me.I'm going to deposit love and hope its not to late for her to love me.I thought I was doing enough, wrong money house me being faithful isn't enough very frustrated and ready to leave this [censored] behind me knowing I've done my best,I'm not perfect and would like her to see the good in me not just bad.sorry for rant just need help.

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You need to find.out who she is having an affair with

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First uncover the affair and then we can help you fix the problems.


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Thanks for help.I have used tracking device .can't get near phone .I guess audio recorder next step.she's now blaming me for cheating .I would be biggest hypocritical man walking on earth if I was cheating.here's another red flag.dam how many flag are there ,lol.

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Originally Posted by impss
Thanks for help.I have used tracking device .can't get near phone .I guess audio recorder next step.she's now blaming me for cheating .I would be biggest hypocritical man walking on earth if I was cheating.here's another red flag.dam how many flag are there ,lol.


Why don't you ask her for her phone? Ask her if she will hand you her phone [right then and there] and give you the password so you can see if she is hiding something. If she will do it, then sit there and carefully go through her phone. If you see anything suspect, forward it to yourself.

If she refuses, you will have your answer. Tell her "I guess you have something to hide."


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Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley
So one of the most common clues of an affair is an unwillingness to let a spouse investigate all aspects of life. If two lives are necessary for an affair, and if a spouse is curious enough, the secret second life is relatively easy to discover. Difficulty in getting a spouse to talk about events of the day can be a sign of trying to hide the second life.

One of the most common smoke-screens used by unfaithful spouses is to express shock that their spouse would be so distrusting as to ask questions about their secret second life. They try to make it seem as if such questions are an affront to their dignity, and a sign of incredible disrespect. They figure that the best defense is a good offense, and so they try to make their spouses feel guilty about asking too many questions.
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Hi is there a way to track cellphone without downloading or

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I am not aware of any other techniques.


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Also wife asked if I'm tracking her cell phone.I wanted to ask how she even new you could do that but didn't.

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Originally Posted by impss
Also wife asked if I'm tracking her cell phone.I wanted to ask how she even new you could do that but didn't.

Did you do as I suggested above and ask to go through her phone? You should have her password and be able to see everything she does on her phone.


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Yes I ask said I'm paranoid.this sounds sick but sometimes when I come home wife limping .I had to leave and not come home made me sick to think that's from having sex.

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Originally Posted by impss
Yes I ask said I'm paranoid.this sounds sick but sometimes when I come home wife limping .I had to leave and not come home made me sick to think that's from having sex.

Then you know she is hiding something from you.


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What is the the single best indicater that cheating is happening?I feel sneaky and feel I'm destroying my marriage looking for clues and unethical behavior on my part.this is coming from father of all lies and it has my life upside down.I have no one to talk to just the forum.if I told other they would think I'm krazy and paranoid .I'm ready to ask for separation because I think and feel there's something going on and can't prove it .she told me over and over nothings happening .I'm going to make Dr.appointment to get help.anytime she's on phone I'm thinking how could you do this to me and my kids.the cheater has upper hand .Is this crap enough to ask for separation?help

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Put a voice activated recorder (VAR)in her car and under your bed if you think she is having relations. Many folks here have used a VAR to verify their suspicions. Check out the "Operate Investigate" forum to find out more.

Don't feel guilty about the spying. Your wife is showing all the signs, and waywards won't admit to their infidelity most of the time. You have to be the one to find the truth. It's cruel as they keep their spouses in a constant state of high anxiety. Sorry, bro.

Get your intel going, and after that prepare yourself to expose the affair.


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Originally Posted by impss
What is the the single best indicater that cheating is happening?

The best single indicator is what your wife is doing: hiding her phone from you.

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I feel sneaky and feel I'm destroying my marriage looking for clues and unethical behavior on my part.

You are not thinking rationally. You have a right to know everything your wife is doing and since she is sneaking around things from you, you have an obligation to uncover her secrets. It is not unethical to catch your spouse cheating. It is unethical to lie, cheat and hide things from your spouse like you wife is doing.

You need to spy on her and find out what she is doing. Calm down, and be strategic.


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Originally Posted by impss
What is the the single best indicater that cheating is happening?I feel sneaky and feel I'm destroying my marriage looking for clues and unethical behavior on my part.this is coming from father of all lies and it has my life upside down.I have no one to talk to just the forum.if I told other they would think I'm krazy and paranoid .I'm ready to ask for separation because I think and feel there's something going on and can't prove it .she told me over and over nothings happening .I'm going to make Dr.appointment to get help.anytime she's on phone I'm thinking how could you do this to me and my kids.the cheater has upper hand .Is this crap enough to ask for separation?help

Hi, impss,

Wecome to Marriage Builders. I am sorry for what brings you here.

You are not doing anything wrong checking up on your wife. When you got married both of you gave everything you have and all of yourselves to each other. It is not wrong for you to check up on each other and in fact that is what husbands and wives do in good marriages. If your wife wants privacy, she can get it by getting out of the marriage, not by living dishonorably and staying in it and treating you in such a shameful fashion.

Keep snooping - get the goods to prove what is going on, then come back here and MelodyLane and the others will walk you through the next steps.

Do you have the book Surviving an Affair? You are going to need it.


If you are serious about saving your marriage, you can't get it all on this forum. You've got to listen to the Marriage Builders Radio show, every day. Install the app!

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Originally Posted by impss
I prey to God for the truth so i can be set free.

impss, you already have the truth, my friend. I'm sorry it is such a sad truth, but you already know what it is.

The next step is to get support. For that you need to get some evidence so you can show people what is going on so that they will help you.

You already know she is having an affair. Don't try to fool yourself about this. Now you just need to show the world, so get the evidence to do it.

Have you seen your doctor about getting some short term antidepressants prescribed? This is something Dr. Harley frequently recommends to a betrayed spouse. It will help even you out so you can think strategically during the trauma and do what has to be done.

It is time to act.


If you are serious about saving your marriage, you can't get it all on this forum. You've got to listen to the Marriage Builders Radio show, every day. Install the app!

Married to my radiant trophy wife, Prisca, 19 years. Father of 8.
Attended Marriage Builders weekend in May 2010

If your wife is not on board with MB, some of my posts to other men might help you.
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