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Originally Posted by LearnedTooLate
What occurred during your morning get together with your Wife?

Is she still ranting, dead set on divorce discussions, claiming POSOM is just a helpful friend, etc...

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Actually are morning was very peaceful and enjoyable. She came over after dropping SS off at school, we snuggled and I held her as we fell asleep together. I gave he a massage. we didn't talk about our marriage. I then made us breakfast. we talked about the future, we talked about going to the church that we got married at. She did try to talk about the divorce, but I told her the attorney's are handling it. She ask me if I believe it was right for telling everyone are business, I told her this. I had no reason hiding your affair and I didn't believe that is the right thing to do hide it. She did talk alot and was waiting for my response. She was like well. I simply said I was just listening to you, I like to listen to you talk. It frustrated her. She then went on about how no one is going to like her anymore. I just said our whole lives don't get judged by one mistake, but as long as we do the right thing together to fix them. I gave her some money to get herself a pedicure and manicure, she asked me what color and I told her get her favorite color blue on her toes and pink on her fingers..she then left a little upset, because I wont budge.

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
So glad you spoke to Dr Harley. What did he say about your continued Plan A? Did you mention that to him?

Dr. Harley told me I bet your wife showed alot of empathy for you during this ordeal and I said she really did. He didn't see her as part of the issue with the wrongful incarceration. He did tell me i did the right thing by going along with the program while I was there, it shows great character in me and how strong of a person I am. He also said this should be seen by my wife. I told him I continued to Plan A and he agreed.

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Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
Actually are morning was very peaceful and enjoyable. She came over after dropping SS off at school, we snuggled and I held her as we fell asleep together. I gave he a massage. we didn't talk about our marriage. I then made us breakfast. we talked about the future, we talked about going to the church that we got married at.

This is amazing. It really is. Very positive sign. She is softening her attitude towards you.

I encourage you to not have any expectations right now but wow...look how far you have come.

Just keep doing exactly what you are doing!


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Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
Actually are morning was very peaceful and enjoyable. we didn't talk about our marriage. I then made us breakfast. we talked about the future,

This is EXACTLY what you want right now...as much as possible.




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One thing my wife said this morning is this " I just don't understand this" She was referring to just how I have been, She mentioned the crazy thing and i put it back on her about how crazy she has been acting and she really looked confused and then didn't say anymore about it.


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One of her other things she is worried about is my relationship with SS. She said she doesn't think it can be repaired. I told her with the right direction we can have friendship. She has been real curious on how we can make all this work and she ask what is your plan. She said she needs to know and be included in the plan. I kind of changed the subject and not sure how to address it.


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Originally Posted by 20YearHistory
Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
Actually are morning was very peaceful and enjoyable. She came over after dropping SS off at school, we snuggled and I held her as we fell asleep together. I gave he a massage. we didn't talk about our marriage. I then made us breakfast. we talked about the future, we talked about going to the church that we got married at.

This is amazing. It really is. Very positive sign. She is softening her attitude towards you.

I encourage you to not have any expectations right now but wow...look how far you have come.

Just keep doing exactly what you are doing!

I left one little detail out, prior to having a massage she wanted to take a shower, so we showered together. I then gave her the massage and yes it happened SF. I Know I didn't want it to happen but it did. I'm not tooting my own horn, but she was blown away by it! the video camera did capture it and the VAR. So I covered myself.


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The GPS I bought was a little expensive, it cost 299.99 and then 134.00 for the extended battery and then 29.99 a month for the tracking service. I actually use this later when I retire and get my PI license.

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Great news about you contacting Dr. Harley! Wonderful that he reached out to you and your wife. It will be exceptionally helpful if you could get her to talk to him. Congratulations!

This is legendary MB stuff.

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Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
One thing my wife said this morning is this " I just don't understand this" She was referring to just how I have been, She mentioned the crazy thing and i put it back on her about how crazy she has been acting and she really looked confused and then didn't say anymore about it.

That would be considered a disrespectful judgement.
Do not point out her craziness.

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Sex is nice....BUT AIDS isn't.
Keep in mind you are having sex with a cheater and might die.

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Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
I left one little detail out, prior to having a massage she wanted to take a shower, so we showered together. I then gave her the massage and yes it happened SF.

Way to GO! This is amazing.

I don't think many women would have SF like this unless she they had cut communication with the OM. Most women can only be in love with 1 person at a time. She would not have had SF with you if she didn't want to.

Keep dialoguing about focusing on tomorrow and not the mistakes of the past. You can repair most any relationship that you want to if you make good choices going forward. Remind her of this.

Can't believe how far you have come in just a few weeks. wow. just wow.

Kudos to you friend for changing. Keep it up. She is noticing.




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Originally Posted by 20YearHistory
Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
I left one little detail out, prior to having a massage she wanted to take a shower, so we showered together. I then gave her the massage and yes it happened SF.

Way to GO! This is amazing.

I don't think many women would have SF like this unless she they had cut communication with the OM. Most women can only be in love with 1 person at a time. She would not have had SF with you if she didn't want to.

Keep dialoguing about focusing on tomorrow and not the mistakes of the past. You can repair most any relationship that you want to if you make good choices going forward. Remind her of this.

Can't believe how far you have come in just a few weeks. wow. just wow.

Kudos to you friend for changing. Keep it up. She is noticing.

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WD, you are doing a great job of keeping your calm and plan A'ing.

I'm very impressed by your commitment to your marriage. Wow.

As a side note, your post could be understood to say you filmed the actual SF, which hopefully is not the case.



Are you living in a covenant with death? With bitterness in your marriage? Read Isaiah 28. The bed will not be long enough or the covers wide enough for you to ever find comfort in that life. In Isaiah 28, God tells you to take a stick and beat these conditions out of your life.

Isaiah 28:29 "This [command] also cometh forth from the Lord of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working."
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Originally Posted by Sunnytimes
WD, you are doing a great job of keeping your calm and plan A'ing.

I'm very impressed by your commitment to your marriage. Wow.

As a side note, your post could be understood to say you filmed the actual SF, which hopefully is not the case.

I think that he filmed the SF so there is no evidence that he raped her, which a Wayward could accuse a betrayed spouse of doing.

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My wife did call me after she got her pedicure and manicure, she was excited and wanted to tell me how pretty the blue color was. I told her I can't wait to see it. I did ask her to dinner with SS, she said she was unsure, See I'm not sure what was told to SS, he knows about the FB IM. See I'm the type of guy who really doesn't care what other people think, now my wife on the other hand is extremely the opposite. She is do worried about what everyone else thinks. I give a rats ars less. I did tell her when everyone see us standing together and how wonderful our marriage is, thats all they will think of how we surrvived and how great it is now. Others will want that.


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Originally Posted by 20YearHistory
Originally Posted by wifedivorcing
I left one little detail out, prior to having a massage she wanted to take a shower, so we showered together. I then gave her the massage and yes it happened SF.

I don't think many women would have SF like this unless she they had cut communication with the OM. Most women can only be in love with 1 person at a time. She would not have had SF with you if she didn't want to.


Just a quick question here. Do WWs not engage in sex with both their husband and OM during an affair? Since I am dealing with a WH and he had no problem having sex with OW away from home and BW at home, I am just wondering if WWs have a different sex MO during an affair than do WHs.

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Justthe3ofus, filming someone having SF with you without them consenting to be the star of such sex tape is a terrible idea.

I am sure Dr. Harley would never support it, and I doubt it is legal.

If I were filmed having sex without my consent (because hell would freeze over before I would ever give consent), I would never speak to that person again in my life. It is just a terrible violation of someone's privacy and personal dignity.

Once there is a sex tape of you, now you have to trust someone every day of the rest of your life to not put it on the internet or show anyone else, or view it for their own pleasure at a time when you would not consent to have them viewing you having sex (such as when you are angry with them).

The moderators are free to edit my response if Dr. Harley supports making sex tapes without the star of the show's consent, but I would equate doing so as a sexual violation with an emotional devastation on par with rape....and one that you will be triggered by every day for the rest of your life every time you worry if it will ever show up on the internet or be shown to anyone else or be viewed that day by the person who took it when you wouldn't want them viewing it.

As you can tell, to me it would be a BFD. And an irreversible deal breaker. The reason for my strong comment here is that his wife seems like the private type (similar to me), so this could have a terrible consequence to the relationship when WD is RH about his having done this to her.

If having sex is such a risk, simply don't have it. Don't just go ahead and have it at her expense (i.e. necessitating that she star in a sex tape without consent).


Are you living in a covenant with death? With bitterness in your marriage? Read Isaiah 28. The bed will not be long enough or the covers wide enough for you to ever find comfort in that life. In Isaiah 28, God tells you to take a stick and beat these conditions out of your life.

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Originally Posted by Sunnytimes
Justthe3ofus, filming someone having SF with you without them consenting to be the star of such sex tape is a terrible idea.

I am sure Dr. Harley would never support it, and I doubt it is legal.

If I were filmed having sex without my consent (because hell would freeze over before I would ever give consent), I would never speak to that person again in my life. It is just a terrible violation of someone's privacy and personal dignity.

Once there is a sex tape of you, now you have to trust someone every day of the rest of your life to not put it on the internet or show anyone else, or view it for their own pleasure at a time when you would not consent to have them viewing you having sex (such as when you are angry with them).

The moderators are free to edit my response if Dr. Harley supports making sex tapes without the star of the show's consent, but I would equate doing so as a sexual violation with an emotional devastation on par with rape....and one that you will be triggered by every day for the rest of your life every time you worry if it will ever show up on the internet or be shown to anyone else or be viewed that day by the person who took it when you wouldn't want them viewing it.

As you can tell, to me it would be a BFD. And an irreversible deal breaker. The reason for my strong comment here is that his wife seems like the private type (similar to me), so this could have a terrible consequence to the relationship when WD is RH about his having done this to her.

If having sex is such a risk, simply don't have it. Don't just go ahead and have it at her expense (i.e. necessitating that she star in a sex tape without consent).

The SF was not captured on video like you think, the act was captured but not in a xxx way. It was captured and you do not see the act itself.


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In some states, having sex with your WS after discovering adultery wipes out the adultery claim.


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