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Has anybody witnessed any recovery with a serial cheater?

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
Has anybody witnessed any recovery with a serial cheater?
Here's a good thread and radio clips on this.
Serial Cheaters


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I looked at your other thread and it's not clear that your WW is a serial cheater. I only saw mention of one affair that has been on/off for 4 or 5 years? Not multiple OM. Could you clarify?

Besides, this is what happens when MB is not followed after an affair. (No exposure, no EPs, etc.) High risk for the affair to reignite or another affair...but it doesn't necessarily mean the WS is a "serial cheater".



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She had multiples affairs.

First was a one night stand when we were dated. I ignored it because she was crying after this that it was awful.

Second was a two month long workplace affair. No exposure happened. She came back, but something was broken.

Third was this guy 5 years ago, and now the same person re-inited.

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5 years ago I followed plan B without reading Harley's books. A counselor suggested to do that. She came back. We got two children.
Emotional needs were not fulfilled.

Now I read the books.

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Have you exposed your WW's affair now?


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It's exposed, yes, to every possible forums.

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
It's exposed, yes, to every possible forums.
Has there been NC between her and OM? Did she write a NC letter?

What EPs has she put in place?


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NC letter done.

EP: this is an issue. Open email, phone policy, done.

Changing job, it's an issue and sensitive area. She didn't want to do this immediately. The problem that before any affairs our biggest love buster was that I haven't supported her carrier.

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
Has anybody witnessed any recovery with a serial cheater?
My wife had two affairs, and we have completely recovered.

You need to address the causes of the multiple affairs with EPs that make repeat affairs essentially impossible - no OS friendships, no overnight separations, complete transparency, etc.


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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
NC letter done.

EP: this is an issue. Open email, phone policy, done.

Changing job, it's an issue and sensitive area. She didn't want to do this immediately. The problem that before any affairs our biggest love buster was that I haven't supported her carrier.
Have you seen this?
From Surviving an Affair, pg 66-67

The extraordinary precautions do more than end marriage-threatening affairs; they help a couple form the kind of relationship they always wanted.

These recommendations may seem rigid, unnecessarily confining, and even paranoid to those who have not been the victim of infidelity. But people like Sue and Jon, who have suffered unimaginable pain as a result of an affair that spun out of control, can easily see their value. For the inconvenience of following my advice, Sue would have spared herself and Jon the very worst experience of their lives.


Checklist for How Affairs Should End

_____The unfaithful spouse should reveal information about the affair to the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should make a commitment to the betrayed spouse to never see or talk to the lover OP again.

_____The unfaithful spouse should write a letter to the lover OP ending the relationship and send it with the approval of the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should take extraordinary precautions to guarantee total separation from the lover OP:

_____Block potential communication with the lover OP (change e-mail address and home and cell phone numbers, and close all social networking accounts; have voice messages and mail monitored by the betrayed spouse).

_____Account for time (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a twenty-four-hour daily schedule with locations and telephone numbers).

_____Account for money (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a complete account of all money spent).

_____Spend leisure time together.

_____Change jobs and relocate if necessary.

_____Avoid overnight separation.

_____Allow technical accountability.

_____ Expose affair to family members, clergy, and/or friends.


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And listen to the clips in here.
Extraordinary Precautions-Revised SAA


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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
It's exposed, yes, to every possible forums.

Did you expose to her boss and did you expose to the OM's W ?


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SusieQ, both thing has happened.

The real issue that she doesn't want to continue with myself.

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
SusieQ, both thing has happened.

The real issue that she doesn't want to continue with myself.

Dr. Harley would probably encourage you to Plan A for the next 6 months.
Do you understand Plan A?

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Originally Posted by SusieQ
Originally Posted by GoodNight81
It's exposed, yes, to every possible forums.

Did you expose to her boss and did you expose to the OM's W ?

Did you post the Om on www.cheaterville.com and email links to his family and friends?

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
SusieQ, both thing has happened.

The real issue that she doesn't want to continue with myself.
Are you sure there's been NC between her and OM?


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I am pretty sure about the opposite, that there is contact.

What can I do?

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Originally Posted by GoodNight81
I am pretty sure about the opposite, that there is contact.

What can I do?
You need to demand her to end her affair and Plan A. And you need to expose.

Is OM married? How is she contacting with him?


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Too much hurt and pain on both sides that my brain hurts just thinking about it all.




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