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Hello my new friends,

I am now one of you, a betrayed spouse. I just gave birth to our second child two weeks prior to his confession. So everything is exceedingly difficult and painful.

My husband has ended the affair, but is having trouble with the no contact provision. They work together and we can't leave this position for at least a year. There is some vague hope that she will be fired but no guarantee. He has committed to not speaking with her or reaching out to her. He has been open about every instance she has reached out to him and has shown me any emails or texts that she sends. We have blocked her from his email, social media outlets, and blocked her number from his phone, but she is rather persistent. He has also sent an email committing to no contact to her supervisor at work. (PS her married supervisor is someone else she has been sleeping with for a long time.)

Well my issue i need help with is his refusal to shut her down when she does contact him. He will not tell her to stop contacting him. the most he can muster is to show me the message and then delete it. Perhaps i am asking too much of my "addict" husband. She is also returning back to an abusive relationship he helped her get out of and he has strong urges to go rescue her from that. He just won't be blunt with her. please let me know your thoughts and insights.



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ps i have only known about the affair for 10 days.

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He needs to leave the job ASAP and you should probably move. His affair is not over. Any contact whatsoever perpetuates it.

Also expose to everyone you know, she knows and to the workplace.



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Originally Posted by TornAsunder06
Hello my new friends,

I am now one of you, a betrayed spouse. I just gave birth to our second child two weeks prior to his confession. So everything is exceedingly difficult and painful.

My husband has ended the affair, but is having trouble with the no contact provision. They work together and we can't leave this position for at least a year. There is some vague hope that she will be fired but no guarantee. He has committed to not speaking with her or reaching out to her. He has been open about every instance she has reached out to him and has shown me any emails or texts that she sends. We have blocked her from his email, social media outlets, and blocked her number from his phone, but she is rather persistent. He has also sent an email committing to no contact to her supervisor at work. (PS her married supervisor is someone else she has been sleeping with for a long time.)

Well my issue i need help with is his refusal to shut her down when she does contact him. He will not tell her to stop contacting him. the most he can muster is to show me the message and then delete it. Perhaps i am asking too much of my "addict" husband. She is also returning back to an abusive relationship he helped her get out of and he has strong urges to go rescue her from that. He just won't be blunt with her. please let me know your thoughts and insights.

I'm sorry for the pain you are suffering through your H's affair.

Dr. Harley would recommend that unless your H agrees to leave his job and never speak to the OW again you should plan to separate and go into a dark Plan B. His continued contact with the OW will wear you down mentally and physically. This not only will cause great misery and potentially long-range health problems for you, but sticking around while he sees the OW at work makes you an option for your wayward husband. You don't want to be his option, right?

You are certainly not asking too much of your H to insist he send a No Contact letter. That should be one of your conditions of recovery.

The affair needs to be exposed wide and far. Have you read the sticky thread at the top of this forum? If not, please read the Exposure 101 thread first.

Meanwhile, start planning for a separation if your H does not very quickly agree to your conditions, listed below:

Originally Posted by Dr. Harley, Surviving an Affair
From Surviving an Affair, pg 66-67

The extraordinary precautions do more than end marriage-threatening affairs; they help a couple form the kind of relationship they always wanted.

These recommendations may seem rigid, unnecessarily confining, and even paranoid to those who have not been the victim of infidelity. But people like Sue and Jon, who have suffered unimaginable pain as a result of an affair that spun out of control, can easily see their value. For the inconvenience of following my advice, Sue would have spared herself and Jon the very worst experience of their lives.


Checklist for How Affairs Should End

_____The unfaithful spouse should reveal information about the affair to the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should make a commitment to the betrayed spouse to never see or talk to the lover OP again.

_____The unfaithful spouse should write a letter to the lover OP ending the relationship and send it with the approval of the betrayed spouse.

_____The unfaithful spouse should take extraordinary precautions to guarantee total separation from the lover OP:

_____Block potential communication with the lover OP (change e-mail address and home and cell phone numbers, and close all social networking accounts; have voice messages and mail monitored by the betrayed spouse).

_____Account for time (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a twenty-four-hour daily schedule with locations and telephone numbers).

_____Account for money (betrayed spouse and wayward spouse give each other a complete account of all money spent).

_____Spend leisure time together.

_____Change jobs and relocate if necessary.

_____Avoid overnight separation.

_____Allow technical accountability.

_____ Expose affair to family members, clergy, and/or friends.


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Originally Posted by LongWayFromHome
Dr. Harley would recommend that unless your H agrees to leave his job and never speak to the OW again you should plan to separate and go into a dark Plan B. His continued contact with the OW will wear you down mentally and physically. This not only will cause great misery and potentially long-range health problems for you, but sticking around while he sees the OW at work makes you an option for your wayward husband. You don't want to be his option, right?
Hello Torn...I hope that you will listen to LongWayFromHome's advice. She has been here for a long while and helped me greatly when I found myself in the same "club".

Your husband's affair has not ended. Please know that every time that he sees her or hears from her at work, it is filling his love bank. I apologize for saying that so brutally, but it is the truth. He needs to *never* see, hear, talk with, this person ever again in order for recovery to even begin. {{{Hugs}}}


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Originally Posted by LongWayFromHome
Dr. Harley would recommend that unless your H agrees to leave his job and never speak to the OW again you should plan to separate and go into a dark Plan B. His continued contact with the OW will wear you down mentally and physically. This not only will cause great misery and potentially long-range health problems for you, but sticking around while he sees the OW at work makes you an option for your wayward husband. You don't want to be his option, right?
Hello Torn...I hope that you will listen to LongWayFromHome's advice. She has been here for a long while and helped me greatly when I found myself in the same "club".

Your husband's affair has not ended. Please know that every time that he sees her or hears from her at work, it is filling his love bank. I apologize for saying that so brutally, but it is the truth. He needs to *never* see, hear, talk with, this person ever again in order for recovery to even begin. {{{Hugs}}}

Yep. I have been at this for about 7 months now, much of it in false recovery while my husband was working with the OW. It just slowly broke me down, made me sick (literally--I had a seizure at one point), insane and angry. Now that I am in Plan B, I can see clearly and I am much healthier. If your husband fully separates, great. If not, go into Plan B for your sanity and for your baby.


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You need to give him 30 days to leave that job or you will be exposing it a his job.

Who all has this been exposed to? Who has it been exposed to on OW's side?


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Have you both been tested for STDs?


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Originally Posted by BlindSighted2013
Originally Posted by LongWayFromHome
Dr. Harley would recommend that unless your H agrees to leave his job and never speak to the OW again you should plan to separate and go into a dark Plan B. His continued contact with the OW will wear you down mentally and physically. This not only will cause great misery and potentially long-range health problems for you, but sticking around while he sees the OW at work makes you an option for your wayward husband. You don't want to be his option, right?
Hello Torn...I hope that you will listen to LongWayFromHome's advice. She has been here for a long while and helped me greatly when I found myself in the same "club".

Your husband's affair has not ended. Please know that every time that he sees her or hears from her at work, it is filling his love bank. I apologize for saying that so brutally, but it is the truth. He needs to *never* see, hear, talk with, this person ever again in order for recovery to even begin. {{{Hugs}}}
Torn, I am sorry for your pain. You have come to the right place for help.

I have been in your "club", with my H done with an affair with an OW in his workplace, while they still worked together and he "tried" to rise above the OW trying to suck him back into talking to her, giving her empty hope, while I got thinner and sicklier and sadder, a ghost of the vibrant mother my children had once seen healthy and engaged with them. I believed H's insistence that he could be strong enough to resist OW's contact. I've been there, and lived through the limbo in hell that it is every moment of every day it goes on.

Run, don't walk, to expose your H's relationship (yes I understand he says it's over) to the company he works for, and all of the OW's friends and family. Your H might lose his job, and he will certainly be angry that you exposed his infidelity.

Remember that your marriage can survive his anger, but it will not survive his affair. He can get another job.

Your own health, and secondarily the health of your marriage, are more important than him keeping his job, livelihood notwithstanding. Continued contact with OW (even if he's reluctant) and love bank deposits with an OW at your H's workplace will wreak havoc on your mental and physical health. You've just had a new baby, and you need your strength. God bless you.


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Thank you all for your guidance. The baby and I have been sick the past couple of days so I apologize for my delay in responding. I will try to go through all of the points raised.

The biggest item that has stuck out to me in this discussion is that he is still getting his love bank filled emotionally by her. Even in just passing Hellos in the hallway. And I agree that the emotional and physical turmoil that this is causing me is torture.

As far as exposing him at work, they already have exposed themselves. In fact his bosses knew he was planning on leaving me prior to him telling me. (fun moment of hell there) But i am preparing for this next phase of exposure. We are currently reading through "Surviving an Affair". I am having him read the chapters on How an affair should end and how it typically ends. I plan to present him with the conditions from "Should end" (as also listed above by LongWayFromHome). If he doesn't fully agree to them then I plan to expose him from stem to stern as that will be him recommitting to the emotional affair (which will then lead back into the physical).

I am having a hard time exposing him prior to this. I know it says I should, and I am sure the reasons apply to me too. I just can't do it yet.

Finally BrainHurts yes I am getting tested for STD's. I have the appointment set with my 6 week postpartum check up from having the baby. I am terrified to see the results. But what part of my life isn't full of crazy intense emotions right now? I am also insisting he gets tested. He is also getting a Vasectomy in a few days as I can't see us having anymore children as we deal with this horror.

Thank you for your support and guidance. Please keep it coming if you have anything else to add.


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Originally Posted by TornAsunder06
The biggest item that has stuck out to me in this discussion is that he is still getting his love bank filled emotionally by her. Even in just passing Hellos in the hallway. And I agree that the emotional and physical turmoil that this is causing me is torture.

Seeing her at work means the affair is still ongoing. It will never actually end until they never see or contact each other again. One of them must leave the job. This ongoing contact is going to be a terrible drain on you. You should not be putting up with this.

Originally Posted by TornAsunder06
As far as exposing him at work, they already have exposed themselves. In fact his bosses knew he was planning on leaving me prior to him telling me. (fun moment of hell there) But i am preparing for this next phase of exposure. We are currently reading through "Surviving an Affair". I am having him read the chapters on How an affair should end and how it typically ends. I plan to present him with the conditions from "Should end" (as also listed above by LongWayFromHome). If he doesn't fully agree to them then I plan to expose him from stem to stern as that will be him recommitting to the emotional affair (which will then lead back into the physical).

Regardless of whether or not he agrees to your conditions for reconciliation, his affair should be exposed. We would all be better people if we had to be accountable to others. His parents and family and friends should all know so they can help keep him accountable.

Also, everyone knowing about the affair kind of takes the "fun" and thrill of an affair away. Don't keep his nasty secret. What he is doing is disgraceful and he needs to see his actions the way others are going to see it.

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I am having a hard time exposing him prior to this. I know it says I should, and I am sure the reasons apply to me too. I just can't do it yet.

Are you afraid to expose? Ashamed? Many betrayed spouses feel embarrassed and humiliated by having to expose, but think of it this way: Your H's affair is likely the very worst thing that has ever happened to you. You are undergoing a tremendous amount of pain. If you had cancer, you would ask for the support of your family and friends. If you lost a child, you would ask for support. An affair is even more painful (to most people) than either of these dreadful events. That's why you should expose the affair and ask for support. Please read through the Exposure 101 thread carefully and start your list.


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Thank you for your support and guidance. Please keep it coming if you have anything else to add.

If he refuses to leave his job AND send the OW a letter of No Contact, you should separate and go in a dark Plan B. Please stop subjecting yourself to this cruelty.



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Torn, I wanted to comment to you, since I also experimented infidelity from my husband when I had a newborn.

At this moment you need to care for you and your baby. You have a lot on your hands. Your health is pivotal for your baby. Even one hour of you worrying about what you husband is doing, is having consequences on your baby.

I was breastfeeding on dday and my poor baby cried non stop for hours after Dday. The first months were awful. Up to this day, my baby has allergies, and I'm sure they started that month.

Your best bet is to kill the A and the only way is exposure. Don't expect the fog to lift by itself. You husband is wayward and there is no way he will care about you or your baby now. You need to step up and fight for your family. If he did the exposure himself, more than likely he painted you as a monster. You need to do the exposure, eveyone needs to hear it from you. Remember you need to care for your baby.

Hugs to you and your beautiful babes!


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Need tips and advice for my wayward husband on getting through withdrawal after an emotional and sexual affair.

Already at no contact, but need tips for the emotions. We will be getting Antidepressants on Monday at a dr appointment.

His emotions are so wide. He gets really angry that there is no happiness in his life anymore. But he seems consigned to the fact that it will take us time to get back there. He then tells me how unfair this is to me.

Please help. Only constructive comments please.

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Is he still seeing OW at work?

Has the affair been exposed?


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no she was fired. and yes exposed.

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Originally Posted by TornAsunder06
Already at no contact, but need tips for the emotions.
Hi Torn, I posted on your other thread, so I do recall a bit about your story. I don't recall reading if you said how long your H's affair went on?


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It's cruel for your husband to boldly show his sadness over losing his affair partner. His selfishness is still in full force. He needs to stop the nonsense and get on antidepressants if he can't handle it. Doesn't he realize it's causing you pain? Obviously not. He needs to get counseling, hopefully from Dr. Harvey ASAP. A few sessions should put in on the right road for recovery.

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emotionally for 4 months, physically for 2.5 months. Just did final walk away letter Wednesday night. So he is fresh into Withdrawal. This was a soulmate affair. So I really need perspective from Waywards who have been there and worked through it.

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Wenang - Not helpful. He is not being cruel. he is being honest. And I would rather know that he is having a tough time then have him hide it till it is too much. That is how we got into this mess in the first place. Neither of us would openly admit we needed things from the other person until we were barely roomates.

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Has he been open with you in terms of his feelings towards you?

"Obviously not. He needs to get counseling, hopefully from Dr. Harvey ASAP"

LOL, that's Dr. HARLEY.

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