I've been following along here and I got a question.......if I were to give the Atkins a go, where would be the place to start? Meaning which book would be the best to get for someone who would be starting at the beginning???

I've put 15 lb's of the 50 I lost on the "Affair Diet" and need to get that in check.......

Remember, PA is H's #1 EN.......

Not

There must be one version of Dr Atkins book in print. There might be several commentaries and versions of it, but there must be one that is the basic diet, written by him.

I bought my book in 2003, which was the first year that I found out about the affair. I found the receipt tucked inside the book when I dug it out this June!

That version of his book is called Dr Atkins's NEW diet revolution. It seems that there was an earlier, original book, so indeed there might be a later one than mine.

In 2003, I took a look at the book, decided that I would just cut down on food a bit, and put it away somewhere. In 2005, I discovered that the affair I thought my H had given up on discovery in 2003, had in fact continued seamlessly for two years. I lost about 28lbs on the spot. (Seriously; I could not get off the toilet. My "fight-or-flight" response kicked in really well. Adrenaline really empties you out quickly!)

I lost about 35lbs in 2005 from simply being to sick at heart to eat. I kept most of that off until 2008 when I visited America!

I dug out my Atkins book this summer because I am overweight again and I cannot stick to a low calorie diet. Atkins is brilliant because it is based on normal foods, minus the simple carbs that most of us use to fill up the plate. I'm glad I started in summer, because I am finding it easy to eat chicken, fish, roasted low GI vegetables and salad leaves in the hot weather, and to drink gallons of fizzy water every day. I put ice in my water if I want to pretend I'm having a cocktail.

Not exactly Atkins, here are a couple books that I really like.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/a-guide-to-flexible-dieting
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-ketogenic-diet

And here's a "diet" you can start to follow until you decide on a book.

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_...formance_diet_mass/the_get_shredded_diet

32 lbs in 8 weeks lost on SB diet.l Also a Chol score down to 2.8 from 5.1, BP down to 122/85 from 165/100, complete removal of IBS symptoms, and hypouricaemia symptoms; both a plague upon me since d-day.

Eating good carbs , fats and proteins in proper balance has been my total physical transformation and I only wish I had found this diet years ago.

Lose weight AND be healthier. Its all good !

Well I've decided to read those books before I commented anymore on Dr. Robert Haas vs. Dr Atkins diets. But I had to tell you my recipe for marinara. lol.

(ps.) this is NOT recommended by "rocko" my italian friend. who laughs at it.

1 tbls olive oil.
1 clove garlic finely chopped
28 oz. can tomato puree
ground basil to taste.

saute garlic till brown, add tomato puree, heat and season with basil to taste.

kinda boring huh?


I have to read the latest on haas also becuase it seems he is now not suggesting the same as he used to kilted. I was going on what I used in the late 80s and what worked for me then.


I am sure atkins has some information I will be able to use also .


Diabetes, as far as I have learned about it, is the inability of the pancreas to produce insulin at all or the insulin it produces to efectivly integrate with blood glucose to produce energy or be turned to fat in the human body.

The original diabetic diet was high in fats as doctors felt that was what was nesessary for the patients to get and stay healthy.

The term Carbohydrtate as used for a description of what the body cannot tolerate as the description of what diabetes is well, misused.

If it were just the intake of Carbs that caused diabetes, it would have been cured a long time ago.


I will refrain from comparing diets untill i have done all the research you have suggested. I am using what i have experienced, good Sugar control, weight loss, and fat to muscle transformation in my own personal experiance, 20 years ago, as my basis for my claims. Everybody is different, and I am sure there is more to learn.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_insulin's_functions


This is what I meant when I said that insulin does more than just regulate blood sugar. There is a more detailed explanation out there, but for the sake of dietary info this should be enogh to show that it is a complex set of functions that it provides. Its primary function is blood glucose control, but beyond that there are other factors that can require the use of insulin. Those that cannot be measured on the blood test meter because they work in different ways.

My problem I have been having is that I have a disease that effects my blood, and so I am allways aware of what makes it harder to keep clean. Because of the complex work the insulin I have to inject has to do in me that goes beyond controling my blood glucose, and because the insulin is not proinsulin like the pancreas naturally secretes, (which become insulin when needed), and becomes active when injected, I want to use it as effecietly as possible when its there.

So now onto the work that is laid out before me on how to keep my blood as clean as I can while looking into what fuels burn as efficiently as possible. I have used Fats and protiens as a way to keep my blood sugar stable many times because they release sugar more slowly but I would rather not because of how much they mess with my energy level. I also make sure I take omega-3 salmon oil and other nessesary colesterol. I am just going to be darn careful I don't eat anything that will make it harder for me to live without the complications of diabetes.

You can be sure that at the ripe old age of 27 when I found out I had this disease I read all that i could out there about it because its an early death sentence if you don't tackle it head on. After I learned a little about the damage it does to the kidneys and the small capillarys which cause nerve damage along with major circulatory problems I developed a diet that could keep up with the lifestyle I had. It was my responsibility and I wanted to live a long life. So I took it seriuously.

The information I got from medical journals, dieticians, other diabetics including doctors and professional sports people, put together with what made sense at the time in modern nutrition worked well for me.

It can allways be improved though, and like one Doctor told me when I became a diabetic, "Your family can benifet in thier diet because all the foods you prepare will be better for them" This is a main goal for me still and my children eat better than I did at thier age.
I look forward to reading more and tweaking my diet as I have different needs now at 52.

I like the saying Shirley Mclaine said some years ago.

"You are what you eat, and you become what you think"

Again thank you for the prod in this direction as I work for the best diet possible

Oh guys , I have heard that any sweetners that are more sweet than sugar are triggers that cause you to be more likely to be hungry after you eat them. Its supposed to be true, anyways.

Day 55 of 60

I'm leaner than I've ever been before. I have endured strict dieting with refeeds only once a week. My carb intake is limited to 3/4 cup mixed berries, small amount of milk for scrambled eggs, and simple sugars directly taken during workout.

In the past 4 weeks I have turned to 1-2 a day hill sprint sessions and 2 sessions per day of treadmill or elliptical machine...once being in a fasted state with only BCAAs on my stomach.

I'm hungry; however, I'm past my protein, carb, and fat intake.

Today I began my water loading and increased sodium intake. I�ll be downing 3 gallons of water a day until Saturday early afternoon. At that point all sodium and water will be cut off save the occasional sip. Sun morning before photos, I�ll take some sugar to fill out the muscle glycogen, an hour before I�ll drink vegetable glycerine to draw whatever water is remaining skin.

And after photos�I�m going to Golden Corral and eat till it hurts at the breakfast buffet.

I had a lot of insights along this journey. I�ll share them someday.

Wow...3 gallons of water. Not to give TMI, but I'd need a catheter!

Not to be nosey...but do you have to use that shiny oil stuff and do all those poses? I had a friend in college who did bodybuilding, and we once went to part of a "meet." It was a very interesting experience. I'm not a big fan of speedos.

Okay, time for another slice of cheescake (kidding!!!!)

While I'm not even going to pretend to understand any of this, congratulations on your accomplishments. That must take a lot of self-discipline.

I just ate a chicken quesadilla on a sundried tomato tortilla and now I'm going to have a chocolate milkshake for dessert.

I don't go anywhere where a restroom is not close by.


lol, no. We took pics at the beginning of this (mainly upper body shots). Then we retake pics on day 60 and submit them. Whomever looks the best from day 1 to day 60 wins.

It's been quite a journey. A lot of dedication and a bit of lonliness. My wife has been super supportive of me the entire time.



Ohhhh...I'll have my fair share of sugar on Sunday. The cravings are hard sometimes. My eyes caught a box of Captain Crunch cereal and it looked so dang delicious. Or when my son was eating an oatmeal creme pie yesterday and I had a thought about running over and stealing it from him.

I love peanut butter Captain Crunch!

Hey Kilted grats on your journey, Hope your eyes aren't bigger than your stomach after Sunday, but they probably will be. lol

Can you come on and post about how you feel after you gorge at Golden corral? I would be interested since I have a feeling it will be rather foggy. But hey, you deserve it, you worked hard.

(Pstt...Luri, pass the chessecake)

I remember being 8 years old and having one of those "dangly teeth." of course, any other child would have ripped it out, hoping for a half dollar under her pillow. I, however, was averse to pain...especially the searing pain that might result from pulling a tooth when even a thread was still intact. So I ate nothing for 3 days.

Finally, in the wee hours of the morning, I accidentally bit the side of my mouth and viola! The tooth was out. The next day I ate pancakes and bacon and eggs and homemade biscuits and......threw up all over the place.

So be careful, kilted. Don't want that breakfast special coming back to greet ya!

You know, I have always said that I am half-bulimic. I binge....but I don't purge

I've been really reading this thread with interest because I could so do with losing weight and getting more energy.

The stress of teaching is kicking me in the pants and I need my energy. I've always been slim in the middle, but now I'm developing some belly fat. I've always been quite low energy in the day time and everybody considers me absent minded so wondering if Atkins would help.

The healthy lunch Melody Lane mentioned though - salad and turkey - I would be so hungry after that! Teaching makes you ravenous.

If I was to try it, where would I start?

Teaching is the hardest (and most rewarding) thing I have ever done. I agree, makes you incredibly hungry because you burn so much physical energy keeping your class engaged. I need tons of carbs with a long slow burn at lunchtime.

If that makes you put on weight, just adjust your evening meal intake.

I've lost 75 pounds in the last year, and I did it on a low carb diet, at first I found salad and turkey not very filling but after awhile it was, and the health benefits are tremendous, I still have a bit to go, but I am pretty proud of myself.

If you add yellow cheese and plenty of full fat blue cheese dressing, you will be full all afternoon. That turkey salad is still one of my favorite lunches. If that doesn't fill you up, add cheese and/or peanuts. Here is a good overview of low carb diets: http://authoritynutrition.com/low-carb-diet-meal-plan-and-menu/

The best way to increase your energy is to avoid most carbs and eat lots of fat and protein. If you have too many carbs, your blood sugar will spike and then crash. [same thing if you eat too much protein] That is why people tend to get sleepy in the afternoon after big high carb lunches. You can avoid that energy crash and have even, level energy if you eat mostly fat, moderate protein and limited carbs. The only carbs I would ever have for lunch would be green leafy veggies, tomatoes, onions and cukes. [in small amounts] The bulk of my lunch comes from FAT and then secondly protein.

My energy level is the same at 4pm as it is at 8am. IT just stays the same all day. I do start feeling sleepy around 9pm but I do have high energy all day long. I say this as someone who fought poor energy levels in my 20's. Once I eliminated most carbs, that all changed. Level blood sugar usually means level energy levels.

I can help you start a diet, if you want..

Congrats!! Believe me, that turkey salad was very filling because I poured on full fat, rich blue cheese dressing and yellow cheese. I didn't even think about food until 6-7.