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Originally Posted by mrEureka
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I would stop this cake eating by allowing her to come and go as she pleases. It is going to make you hate her and confuse your children. She will have little incentive to end her affair if this continues. She has already basically abandoned her children for this loser and shows up to appease her guilt...and maybe stock up on stuff to take to the bum's house.


No, Dr H expressly says not to do that with women. A few of us told a BH to kick his wife out and Dr H clarified that it's best for women to always feel they can come home.

Very surprising! But I suppose it makes sense - the BHs plan A encourages cake eating.
Actually, women are not as vulnerable to cake eating as men are. Men can be content having multiple women meeting their emotional needs, but women are rarely content having multiple men. Women experience dissonance and have a greater need to pick the best of the men available and attempt to have all of their emotional needs met by that one chosen man. That is why husbands can be more successful at winning wayward wives back via Plan A than wives can husbands. The strategy is to make yourself the best choice. This will cause the wayward wife to experience the discomfort of dissonance because she needs to make a choice more than the enjoyment of cake eating because she has more than one man to meet her emotional needs.


That's a really good way of putting it and is why Dr H encourages men to stick around. The WW isn't doesn't have the same predilection to cake eat, so it's OK to encourage it.

I couldn't do it myself, but there's no denying it works. We've seen BHs often win their wives back this way. Never seen a man succeed without a lengthy Plan A while it's always a disaster when women try it.

I think it's going very well here! Offensive of course, but effective.



What would you do if you were not afraid?

"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.

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That's a tough situation. I'm not sure i'd be willing to continue trying at that point.

I wonder if filing for D and seeking full custody (as she's abandoned her family) would be a wake up call? (and you don't have to go through with it... the filing might be a catalyst)

Note: I'm new here so take my advice with a huge grain of salt laugh



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Originally Posted by RobL
That's a tough situation. I'm not sure i'd be willing to continue trying at that point.

I wonder if filing for D and seeking full custody (as she's abandoned her family) would be a wake up call? (and you don't have to go through with it... the filing might be a catalyst)

Note: I'm new here so take my advice with a huge grain of salt laugh


No, it's a fair question and one of the toughest parts of MB to wrap your head around.

Dr H considers it every MBers right to file for divorce in the face of adultery and to cease contact. However this is likely to end the marriage if the betrayed spouse is a man. For men, he recommends the lengthiest Plan A they can do. Exposure and being tough on the affair, sure - but in all other respects to be as caring a spouse as possible.

Even quite seasoned vets were corrected recently when a BH was advised to kick out his wife while she was blatantly cheating. Dr H said not to do that, but allow her to remain in the home.

Here http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2794118

It does work for men, however when women try it it's a disaster. Men find it unattractive to be chased and are far more responsive to the 'wake up call' approach. Sometimes the Women successfully bust up their husband's affair but they lose all love for him (and become severely depressed).

Men don't. Their marriages thrive.

From what I've seen of general marriage problems on here, women always need men to take some sort of lead. Women need to be wooed and fought for - or they simply won't love the man.



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What would you do if you were not afraid?

"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer" Frank Herbert.

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