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She was successful with creating several delays due to running to another state and filing restraining orders there... so I had to travel there and get that thrown out and things sent back to our home state. Basically she was claiming that exposure, 15 hours undivided attention, and all the marriage builders principles were forms of excessive control and abuse and she was entitled to restraining orders and sole custody of the children. I think she is going to face quite a court battle now with me so I can get my children back. Plan A is out of the question at this point I suppose.

Do you feel fairly secure that she doesn't know you were/are posting here?

For my own information I'd like to hear a little more how this judge in Mass reacted to all this.

I agree with Jedi, focus on the kids ....if and when you go get them I think you better take a sheriff with you. Don't interact with her alone without a videocamera running. She's seeing this summer as a vacation with OM and somehow hoping she can figure out a way to magically get the kids back later. Waywards live day to day and as long as she can continue the affair today, why worry about tomorrow. Worst case she probably thinks as their momma she can just get 50-50 anytime she wants....for now...it's summer with OM.

Talk it over with your attorney and Jedi is a great resource but if and when you wayward wife comes to town this summer to visit the kids you probably want to either have the court order supervised visitation OR give the appearance of wanting to facilitate her relationship with the kids in a healthy protective manner as much as you can. See...you want the court to see that YOU are not punative nor an alienator (like she has proven herself to be) and the judge/court can trust you to do what's best for the kids which could mean you help them see their mom when mom is not a danger to them. Doesn't mean you have to be there. These visits could be set up through a third party. Anyway, that's something to consider carefully with your attorney.

The judge is completely annoyed that she has alienated the children from me and filed a false restraining order when there was no threat to her. She did all this in another state. At the same time, it puts the judge in a difficult position because all potential threats need to be taken seriously.

She may or may not know that I am posting here but I speak the truth and have no ill intent. Despite her behaviors, I have no intention of being the one who keeps the kids mother from them. I want her to be part of their lives. The kids will understand as they grow older what she has done and they can make up their own minds. They are very smart individual people.. not possessions as my wife treats them.

We have a very clear custody agreement and I have no reason to think she will visit them. I will be careful to have witnesses at all times when I am in contact with her.

I have done everything by the book and will continue to do so. My love bank for my wife is so far in the negative... but I understand that there she is two different people... one personality while having the affair and completely different when not in the affair. I need to avoid her too just to avoid my love bank from getting yet further in the red.. When I am away from her, I can still remember the wonderful woman that I married, but that woman is dead at least for now.

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Originally Posted by typicalman
We have reached interim orders which give me the kids for the next couple months. The way I am looking at this is that, although with her current state of mind she has no business having custody of the children... she moved 2000 miles away so she will be forced to choose the affair (and stay there) or to move back here and be part of the children's lives. I would think that this gives her a strong incentive to rethink things... but it will take some time for her to come to that realization. The custody issue would seem to solve itself unless a judge would really allow her to take my kids out of state so she could be with another man... but it doesn't work that way in my state. She is completely clueless right now. All the restraining orders have been dropped now in the other state and the Judge there is quite fed up with her.

My WW moved out nearly 3 1/2 years ago to carry on affair #3 and even though she broke up with that POS AND at that time our Son just had turned 9 years old.

She only had 5 Very Brief visits with my Son the 1st year and None since. No phone calls, no Christmas Presents or cards, and no Birthday Presents or cards either.

Affairs Change People.

She was a A VERY good mother and wife prior to her 1st one.

I NEVER would have expected 1% of the behaviour she has since exhibited.

There is Drastically something wrong with a Mommy abandoning their own child.

In my case, the Point Of No Return had been reached a long time ago.

Be prepared for who she is now, not who you believe her to be.

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After some research.. my wife has moved away thousands of miles to rent an apartment less than 1 mile of the POSOM. She still denies everything and claims to have moved to be closer to family & friends due to needing to escape the terrible abuse and controlling nature of the MB program... even though closest family is still hours away. I don't know if I want her back at this point, but it still can hurt to drive the POSOM away.. at a minimum, I want him away from my kids. He has no wife or family that I know of who would care. He doesn't have much of a career.. although, I plan to inform any employer that he does have. Any other tactics that I could use to drive him off?

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