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Originally Posted by Mrs_Mathias
I[spoiler][/spoiler]t is time for me to tell him either he is all in or I am out and to put the active choice in his hands.

It's really hard to hear. I had hoped for something else, but I guess that's not realistic at this point.

I'm not prepared to face that kind of ultimatum. Several of our friends just announced their separation/divorce and my heart is broken for them and us. I really, really believed that we could overcome this together. These last few days have been nice again. It's so hard.

Dr. Harley has a very good article on how to respectfully request that he get on board with the recovery without continually bringing up the past.

It starts off something like;

Listen up buster.....

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Originally Posted by Dr. Harley
I suggest that she look him right in the eye and say to him, "Listen Buster, do you love me? Do you want me to love you? Do you want to spend the rest of your life with me? If the answers to any of those questions is 'yes' you sure are going about it the wrong way. You are not doing things that I admire, you're doing things that I find disgusting!"

What if he says, "Fine, then lets just get a divorce and end it all."

To that I would say, "It's up to you. I married you for life, but if you want a divorce, it's your call. If you want to be in a love relationship with me, however, you're going to have to treat me much better than you have been treating me. You must never again bring up my affair, and if you are upset with me, you will have to treat me with respect until we can solve the problem. If you are upset with our sexual relationship, I want us to discuss it as adults and solve it with mutual respect. I refuse to be treated like this, especially by the man I love."

My advice to her husband is to never mention her affair again. It's a good example of one of the enemies of good conversation, dwelling on past mistakes. Whenever you keep bringing up your spouses past mistakes, you not only make your conversations incredibly unpleasant, but it cannot possibly lead to a resolution of a conflict you may be discussing. And as soon as his resentment doesn't pay him any dividends -- no longer helps him get his way -- he will find that it hardly ever occurs to him.

Hanging on to an unpleasant thought because it helps us somehow is what psychologists call "secondary gain." It means that even though the thought is unpleasant, it gets you something you need, so your mind keeps it around for its usefulness. There are many unpleasant thoughts that have this characteristic, and I have helped many people let them go by helping them destroy the usefulness of the thought. Making sure that S.K.'s husband never gets what he wants by bringing up her affair will help him overcome his resentment.

From Coping with Infidelity: Part 4
Overcoming Resentment


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Originally Posted by Mrs_Mathias
I'm not prepared to face that kind of ultimatum. Several of our friends just announced their separation/divorce and my heart is broken for them and us. I really, really believed that we could overcome this together. These last few days have been nice again. It's so hard.
Yes, you can overcome this together, but you are not "together". If you do not stop allowing his emotional abuse of you, your marriage will never get better. It is like a car stuck in the mud that just spins its wheels. You need a tow truck. That is why a separation is necessary. Until something happens to get out of this rut, you are going to stay there. You should follow Dr. Harley's advice.


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