Hi Cali. You know this is fog-talk, right? You know it, deep down inside. Someday, somehow, your H will come out of the fog, maybe it will be in time, maybe not, but you know that someday he will realize the truth, right?<P>MY H, yes mine, has recently told me that he loved me the entire time he was trying to "run away" with OW and forget his problems. He said he tried not to have feelings for me, but it just didn't work, he knew it, but kept trying to convince himself... <P>Now, I knew this in my heart, but did I believe it? No, not always, half the time, I really thought the things he said were true. Then, out of the fog he comes, and just like most of the other WS's, realized what love really is.<P>Don't beat yourself up over this Cali, when my H took his ring off it tore me up inside. When I took mine off, it tore him up inside (after he told me it went PA and he was trying to get back with me). Neither of us wear our rings now, and even though it still feels awkward sometimes, I just deal, someday, we will wear them again, when the time is right (I hope)...<P>WS's in the fog seem to have their own version of love and in-love, doesn't seem like all WS's feel this way? It must be some secret cult way of trying to rationalize and justify things in their head. "Oh, I have these feelings for my S sometimes because I love them, but I have these other feelings because I am not IN LOVE with them."<P>Stay strong Cali, I am going to go and read your other long thread in a little bit, haven't quite had time yet...<P>HbH<BR>