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#2928011 11/05/01 11:48 PM
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. . .<p>[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Empty Shell ]</p>

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hi empty,
Yes, of course there are people here to listen.
I am so sorry about your father. I hope he is recovering well at this point. Sending prayers to you, your father and family.
Your wife was there? And what do you mean 'gone' with daughter?
I have not been keeping up ES, so when did your wife come back, and under what arrangements?
(((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))

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ES, <p>That is a pretty low blow your W did there. I gather you are not too surprised? I am sorry that you litle girl is being put into the middle of this. <p>You are good to be there for your dad. What your W did is highly disrespectful but evidently an allowed thing in fogese land. <p>You have been here a long time. I am sure you are very familar with the MB stuff here. The one thing is that you would not want to make a life altering decision with your emotions. Right now worrying for your dad and having to deal with your W abandoning you are both real stressful. <p>She will allow e-mail? Then e-mail her for status. Is her family or someone she is close to accessible? Your daughter is still in school so she would need to be nearby right? <p>Please let us know what you need. <p>Take Care,
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Empty Shell,<p>I hated to see this posted when I looked in this morning. Please before you make any life changing decisions stop and breathe. You are under so much stress right now with your dad's illness you didn't need this too. But you have it. Did she say why she felt that it is "necessary to have a little time apart" right now ? <p>I like you both but it seems to me that this was kicking you while you're, well not down but certianly while you weren't looking.<p>For now just breathe, that's all, breathe. <p>{{{{{{{empty shell}}}}}}

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Oh, ES, I'm so sorry you're back with this news.<p>I know things have been rough for a while, but, like Deb (aka Wise One) said, take a few deep breaths.<p>I'm so sorry about your dad, glad he's doing ok. Do you have any idea about what was going on with hopeful b/f she left? I don't doubt her mom is helping, but....aw heck! I just don't know what to say!<p>Remember we're here. Take your time and do what you need to do. Do email her and your daughter. That's important. Especially for the little one to know you care.<p>Hang in there, Friend. We're right here with you.<p>Love,<p>Lori

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Oh ES, it's Sheryl (the old new_beginning - blasted, I almost wish I hadn't changed that name!)...<p>I'M SORRY!!! [img]images/icons/frown.gif" border="0[/img] <p>First, I am praying for your dad!!!! <p>Secondly, what happened with your wife in the last few months, if you feel up to talking about it. <p>You were ALWAYS there for my ex-H and me, and I hope I can be one of shoulders you lean upon.<p>Take care, ES...

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Hi ES,<p> I too am sorry for everything you are dealing with right now. Please post more info on the past 4 years. Has W been involved with someone else? What would you say her reasons would be for leaving? You say you have been trying to decide whether or not to end the marriage prior to your fathers illness, WHY?<p> Right now you need to send her an email asking her what the deal is. WHATEVER you do be polite, do not demand anything of her. Right now you have to be extremely careful not to piss her off. This would only make matters worse ie; SEEING YOUR DAUGHTER. <p> I am sorry if I seem a little blunt. I assure you it is not meant in a negative way.<p> jd

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HI ES,<p>I am sorry to see you back here again. I hope you do take some time to figure out what is going on with yourself and your W. However,I would like to also recommend that within a few days that you talk with a lawyer.<p>You stated that your W has attempted suicide within the last year. If this is indeed the case you need to seek to get your D back. She may not be stable enough to be raising your D and she is your D not the in-laws. So check out your options after you have given this a few days to simmer down.<p>I surely hope that your W sees what she is doing and decides to make some changes in her approach to marriage.<p>Meanwhile, my best wishes for your parents and you.<p>God Bless,<p>JL

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I am so sorry to see this. Wish I had great wisdom to offer, but I don't know what to add top what's been said. I am thinking of you.<p>{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{empty shell}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}<p>Kathi

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HI ES,
I thought your wife was living away but working on your marriage. No idea how I got that idea. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Glad your father is recovering.
Your wife's timing leaves a little to be desired.
I can understand your frustrations with your daughter. Sorry you are going through this. Anyway to get your wife to see that your d would be better with you while she is in such a state of confusion?
(((((hugs)))))


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