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#2933966 12/07/01 11:33 AM
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<p>[ December 20, 2001: Message edited by: Getting very tired ]</p>

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Tired, I have heard the very same thing from my W when she's very depressed and is seeing the reality of our situation. I'm never quite sure if it's feeling sorry for herself and persecuted or if it's realization of how screwed up we are.<p>I've also heard the I've tried to please everyone thing as well. That's most often a rationalization justifying her behavior.<p>My W is a giver she despises that aspect of herself when she's down. She calls herself the bandaid lady and the self-loathing is almost palpable. <p>I see both sentiments together usually, it's like there's a battle going on inside her and it's painful to watch and feel helpless. All I've been able to do at those times is reassure her that she's still a wonderful woman and let her know she's loved and that I'm here for her.<p>It's hard man, to see so much pain and know that there's nothing you can do but be there in the off-chance they'll let you. I'm sorry for your pain, and hers.<p>Take care,

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Your wife sounds very depressed, possibly dangerously so. Why can't you just go and get her, or at least go and see her? She sounds to me like she wants you to come and help her, but is unable/unwilling to ask.

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