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#2936088 12/20/01 08:59 PM
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oops - here it comes again - Eleanor - she had an infamous wayward husband with a long term mistress didn't she? - wasn't he even with the OW when he died - would you let her spout her self-respect - dignity talk on this board too? Do you think she had a point of referance to share with anyone here? Or would she just be trying to rub your faces in it too?

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hailey,<p>It is good that your parents taught you self sufficiency and that you are centered and at peace with yourself.<p>I have always known my own happiness is up to me and no one else. These are things that I was taught too and that I am passing on to my children. They are also learning that lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, and any other number of other bad behaviors will not be tolerated in my home. I hope they take those lessons with them when they leave to be on their own.<p>These are hard things to teach to children when their own father (in my son’s case) and their own mother (in my step-children’s cases) set such poor examples. When mommy leaves 5 year old children unsupervised at night so she can party, drugs, have affairs and leave the children unsupervised what do we tell the children? It’s ok for mommy and daddy but not for you? <p>RE: p.s. zoreweb, if you want to fight - go somewhere else where someone will fight with you - I will not.<p>I am not fighting, nor do I want to. If you choose to take my posts as such then so be it. I feel that I am simply sharing information and parts of my story with you. It was my understanding that that is why you are here. Perhaps you are not used to people who are forthright about their feelings. It is ok or you and I to disagree on things. We should be able to say things that we do not agree upon and still have a discussion. <p>There is something that I've been curious about. You seem to be very upset about many of the responses you are getting her on MB. This is an open forum so people will respond in the manner they think fits. Sometimes it helps if we tell people what we want. For example, there are days when all I want my H or friends to do is to listen to me. I don’t want input, advice, or criticism. Other days I want some very blunt input and/or advice. We have all arrived at an agreement that we tell the others what we want on a particular occasion. It keeps people from getting what they don’t want or need.<p>Why don’t you give an explanation or example of what you want? For example, if all you want is for people to be supportive of your decision to have an EA and not stop contact with MM, then say that. Then people who do not feel good about giving that support will stay away from your threads. It seems that most of the members here can never get it right when it comes to posting to OP. It seems that no matter what we say we are chastised and wrong. So what is the proper way to post to an OP? Though it may sound like I’m giving you a hard time about this, I am serious. I really don’t know what OP who come here want from us. That is one type of information we could all use here.

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Zorweb - it's taken me a day to - but I see that you are very good at what you do. You are.

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re: What was it you guys that Elanor Rosevelt said about inferiority? Zorweb - you seem to know a lot of trivial info - something along the lines of no one can take away your self-respect and dignity and make you feel inferior with out YOUR permission. That Elanor - she was a bright one - hey. <p>Hailey... OK, you are the one who is after a fight. I am not. It seems to me that you are the one showing no class, bitterness and anger. I've been trying to figure out since your second post why you coped that attitude from the beginning here. Guess that's just who you are.<p>Ha! You are a riot... 'lot of trivial info'. And you have shown great gifts of knowledge here??? I think not. ROTFL<p>please put that in English so I understand what you are trying to say. What does Eleanor R. have to do with me? That sure came out of left field. I do not recall bringing up anything about her.<p>And are now attacking HER? Or is it that you just want to attack any woman who has been a BS. Does it make you feel superios? Geez get a life lady. <p>I on the other hand do have a life and am off to do some xmas shopping with the kids and some friends. Then off to a late date with my H. <p>I'm still ROTFL.

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RE: Zorweb - it's taken me a day to - but I see that you are very good at what you do. You are. <p>and what do I do???????

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Since I've got my answers now - and have fulfilled my reason for coming - I am not returning to this post - I thank those of you who are here and have helped me see another side to this A - Those of you who truely attempeted some reciprocity know of whom I speak - may God be with you and may all of your desires be fulfilled - those of you of whom I speak will weather your storm - There are those on this board who are master manipulators - bitter - and full of seething anger and resentment - there positions will proceed them - and there lives will continue to be what they make them - the funny part of this is - it's you who will decide which ones you think I think you are - See you have the power over your lives - no one else. If you think it's you that I am thanking for being enlightened even in your darkest hour - then it's you - but if you think you are the bitter angry shrew who manipulates and sees themselves as a constant victum and manipulates those around them to meet thier needs - well then you have made that reality. Thank you all - hailey
katie S - got your email - I'll keep ya posted.

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RE: oops - here it comes again - Eleanor - she had an infamous wayward husband with a long term mistress didn't she? - wasn't he even with the OW when he died - would you let her spout her self-respect - dignity talk on this board too? Do you think she had a point of referance to share with anyone here? Or would she just be trying to rub your faces in it too? <p>Yes Eleanor was a very dignified woman. I am flattered that you would use think of me anything like her. <p>If you mean would her husband's OW meet with the same reception here as you are? If she came here to brag about being an OP and to put down those who are interested in marriage building, then yes she would get the same reception.<p>If on the other hand she came here with compassion and respect then she would be treated in a like manner.<p>[ December 21, 2001: Message edited by: zorweb ]</p>

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